Another tribunal (UCU this time)

ifIwerenotanandroid · 2024-02-06T18:14:16+00:00

Will this one be accessible online? I'm always the last to hear about this stuff so I thought I'd get in early this time (it's next month). I've just seen a tweet about it, but it's to do with crowdfunding, so I think I can't link to it. It's about bringing 'an employment tribunal claim against UCU for unlawfully discriminating against us because of our protected 'gender critical' beliefs': 'Scheduled screenings of our film have twice been cancelled by protestors at the University of Edinburgh. On both occasions the Edinburgh branch of the Universities and College Union (UCU) denounced the film as 'hate speech' and 'transphobic'. We are members of UCU and yet the union has treated us and the film as beyond the pale and unworthy of a place on campus. ' All info gratefully received.

WitchyWitcherson · 18/04/2024 19:30

ifIwerenotanandroid · 18/04/2024 19:01

I hope someone does. I once got a novel's worth of inspiration out of a local Labour Party meeting. Everybody there was completely batsh!t (though mostly harmless), in unique ways. I wrote my ideas out but never wrote the book. And that was just one meeting! I never went to another, which I now regret just for the wealth of characters & plots.

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Where's Glinner when you need him?! 😜🤣

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ifIwerenotanandroid · 18/04/2024 19:01

WitchyWitcherson · 15/04/2024 14:48

Sounds like you have excellent fodder for writing a great sitcom 😂

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I hope someone does. I once got a novel's worth of inspiration out of a local Labour Party meeting. Everybody there was completely batsh!t (though mostly harmless), in unique ways. I wrote my ideas out but never wrote the book. And that was just one meeting! I never went to another, which I now regret just for the wealth of characters & plots.

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WitchyWitcherson · 15/04/2024 14:48

MidsomerMurmurs · 14/04/2024 08:13

Mixed sex, but yes to the larping. Grady reckons she’s leading the miners’ strike of 1984. At my local level there are always raised fists, lots of “solidarity” and general play acting at being radical, from the comfort of their nice offices.

My colleagues who are genuinely from a working class background (as opposed to identifying as such) have no time for all the nonsense.

Things might have changed since I left the UCU two years ago but I don’t think so, based on the twitter output. (My local branch’s Twitter is - somehow - even more egregiously insane than the National Twitter feed).

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Sounds like you have excellent fodder for writing a great sitcom 😂

CormorantStrikesBack · 14/04/2024 17:52

LoobiJee · 14/04/2024 07:17

They seriously call each other comrades throughout meetings.

Do they do that ironically?

Or larping Citizen Smith?

edited to add: are they all blokes?

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I dunno it doesn’t seem ironic. 🤷‍♀️

GCAcademic · 14/04/2024 17:39

There are few things more sickening than middle-class prolier-than-thou types. The entire trade union movement has been hijacked by them, but I expect UCU is worse than most for this.

SinnerBoy · 14/04/2024 12:31

MarieDeGournay · 12/04/2024 16:17

Just posting a link to the BMJ's article on the Cass report, which completely refutes the 'shoddy' accusation:

Thanks, I've just posted the link, with a scathing comment, on Jo Edge's Twitter.

MidsomerMurmurs · 14/04/2024 08:13

LoobiJee · 14/04/2024 07:17

They seriously call each other comrades throughout meetings.

Do they do that ironically?

Or larping Citizen Smith?

edited to add: are they all blokes?

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Mixed sex, but yes to the larping. Grady reckons she’s leading the miners’ strike of 1984. At my local level there are always raised fists, lots of “solidarity” and general play acting at being radical, from the comfort of their nice offices.

My colleagues who are genuinely from a working class background (as opposed to identifying as such) have no time for all the nonsense.

Things might have changed since I left the UCU two years ago but I don’t think so, based on the twitter output. (My local branch’s Twitter is - somehow - even more egregiously insane than the National Twitter feed).

AmaryllisNightAndDay · 14/04/2024 08:01

I don't mind the silly names. I don't mind the tears, I would be deeply distressed if the results of a serious research review contradicted my most cherished beliefs.

What I find shocking is their insistence that if you don't like the results then the research must be shoddy. That offends my core professional values as an academic.

ArabellaScott · 14/04/2024 07:19

Combabies. Combooboos. Comrabies. Combobbleheads.

LoobiJee · 14/04/2024 07:19

ArabellaScott · 14/04/2024 06:15

Isn't it UCU who've been protesting against 'Let Women Speak' this weekend?

And the NEU. And Unite the Union.

LoobiJee · 14/04/2024 07:17

CormorantStrikesBack · 14/04/2024 06:55

I’m in the ucu and I hate that I am. They seriously call each other comrades throughout meetings. I feel like I’ve joined some sort of Cold War resistance group.

They seriously call each other comrades throughout meetings.

Do they do that ironically?

Or larping Citizen Smith?

edited to add: are they all blokes?

LoobiJee · 14/04/2024 07:15

“combabes”

In place of comrades presumably?

Words fail me.

CormorantStrikesBack · 14/04/2024 06:55

I’m in the ucu and I hate that I am. They seriously call each other comrades throughout meetings. I feel like I’ve joined some sort of Cold War resistance group.

ArabellaScott · 14/04/2024 06:16

'Combabes '. Good grief.

ArabellaScott · 14/04/2024 06:15

Isn't it UCU who've been protesting against 'Let Women Speak' this weekend?

borntobequiet · 14/04/2024 06:05

Wattnow · 12/04/2024 15:18

This is UCU response to the Cass Review - actual tears!

They are clearly nuts.

Meanacademic · 14/04/2024 05:27

Embarrassing. Irresponsible. Damaging to our sector. I can only hope this resolution will be ignored.

MarieDeGournay · 12/04/2024 16:17

Just posting a link to the BMJ's article on the Cass report, which completely refutes the 'shoddy' accusation:
https://www.bmj.com/content/385/bmj.q837
UCU.. remind me again what the first U stands for? It can't be anything to do with facts, or research, or objectivity or anything, obvs🙄

Rainbowshit · 12/04/2024 15:44

HellonHeels · 12/04/2024 15:32

Brings to mind that "mad, angry cry" tweet of a few months back. Cant recall who it was though.

They're an embarrassment.

Rosie Jones I think.

HellonHeels · 12/04/2024 15:32

Brings to mind that "mad, angry cry" tweet of a few months back. Cant recall who it was though.

They're an embarrassment.

Wattnow · 12/04/2024 15:29

It's real combabe

AmaryllisNightAndDay · 12/04/2024 15:27

Wattnow · 12/04/2024 15:18

This is UCU response to the Cass Review - actual tears!

That Twitter thread has to be a wind-up .... surely?

I mean OK, I packed UCU in a couple of years ago but these are academics and surely they all know what solid research looks like?

Wattnow · 12/04/2024 15:18

This is UCU response to the Cass Review - actual tears!

BadSkiingMum · 11/04/2024 12:11

The bit about 'potential employer' is quite interesting. I remember something from last year when a job was advertised (PA to a business owner or similar) and information about the job had something to indicate that gender-critical views would not be accepted (can't remember the wording).

I think Maya shared it on social media and pointed out that it is possible to bring a tribunal claim against a prospective employer.

Beingboredisgoodforyou · 11/04/2024 11:52

SidewaysOtter · 07/02/2024 11:51

@Meanacademic this one?

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/hard-left-academics-plotted-gender-id-witch-hunt-on-colleagues-fdqnq5cb9

(Sorry for the non-share token version, I can’t get that to work on my phone)

Pisses me off that these people are continually described as hard left when they are not representative of the left at all.