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Uses the pronoun "judy"

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RachelGreensHair · 05/02/2024 17:11

Never seen this one before! Anyone else want to use it?
https://www.theguardian.com/stage/2024/feb/05/desperate-housewives-felicity-huffman-comeback-jail-hir

Uses the pronoun "judy"
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popebishop · 06/02/2024 12:15

MrsWhattery · 06/02/2024 10:11

Yes I think “gender” is increasingly being used to mean “anything distinctive about me or what I believe myself to be” - hence the “autigender” mentioned on another thread where autism comes into it. So… personality, abilities or an nd condition can be or relate to your “gender”. It just means “my specialness”.

The use of "gender" to mean "something about my personality" is sort of the whole point of gender criticism.

It's not "increasingly", it's only ever meant that (in terms of gender identity).

Feminine, masculine, autistic, Saggitarius, cat - they are describing what people think themselves are like.

That what you're like as a person ever got tied to whether you have XX or XY chromosomes IS the madness of it.

Yet people think it's less weird to tie "liking dolls" to what sex you are. Because sexism is ingrained.

mumda · 06/02/2024 12:11

I associate Judy too much with Punch.

Brefugee · 06/02/2024 12:08

Has calling girls/women "judies" gone out of fashion in Liverpool? I was in the army with a couple of chaps from there who always referred to women as "a judy" or "judies"

MrsWhattery · 06/02/2024 11:50

It's all a fucking performance. Only some special people are indulged and some aren't.

Yes but if your arty performance actively encourages people to understand that it's all a performance... well that's all to the good. Even though not everyone could get away with it - I'd rather see someone ridicule it than no one. Genderwoo will eat itself, in a million large and small ways.

Beowulfa · 06/02/2024 11:40

That actress sounds like a nasty piece of work, the playwright a tedious wanker, and the play hard work.

Think I'll stay in and watch some repeats of Murder She Wrote instead.

ArabellaScott · 06/02/2024 11:35

SquirrelsAssemble · 06/02/2024 11:17

Innnteresting...

You can see who's in a place if privilege where they can use silly pronouns because they're being 'fun & playful & raising a wry smile' and the usual suspects enter the chat to bless the usage & decree "it's fine".

Perhaps I shall try out a nonsensical pronoun as a 45yo mother of 2 in a captured organisation and see if I'm greeted with wry, playful smiles or hauled into HR.

Aye. See 'it's a performance, duh'

It's all a fucking performance. Only some special people are indulged and some aren't.

Dexterrolledoffthesofa · 06/02/2024 11:27

NecessaryScene · 05/02/2024 17:43

A world where everyone has a name and a pronoun which is a different name

Lewis Carroll kind of got there first. This always tickled me for some reason. (The naming of the poem, rather than the actual poem).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haddocks'_Eyes

I've just read this. I need to go and lie down.........

SquirrelsAssemble · 06/02/2024 11:17

Innnteresting...

You can see who's in a place if privilege where they can use silly pronouns because they're being 'fun & playful & raising a wry smile' and the usual suspects enter the chat to bless the usage & decree "it's fine".

Perhaps I shall try out a nonsensical pronoun as a 45yo mother of 2 in a captured organisation and see if I'm greeted with wry, playful smiles or hauled into HR.

New2024 · 06/02/2024 11:04

Hmm interesting, certainly not one I’d heard of before. Why lower case if it’s a pronoun? Makes it even more difficult to get right

SamuelDJackson · 06/02/2024 10:16

Cant believe I am the first to post this....

Judge Judy Eye Roll GIF
MrsWhattery · 06/02/2024 10:13

(And I don’t mean to say there’s anything wrong with having distinctive or special features or abilities that make you yourself - everyone does. But they’re not gender!)

MrsWhattery · 06/02/2024 10:11

Yes I think “gender” is increasingly being used to mean “anything distinctive about me or what I believe myself to be” - hence the “autigender” mentioned on another thread where autism comes into it. So… personality, abilities or an nd condition can be or relate to your “gender”. It just means “my specialness”.

ArabellaScott · 06/02/2024 10:08

Depends who's doing it, Zodfa. Some people are allowed to subvert and mock and make jokes.

Others aren't.

Zodfa · 06/02/2024 09:54

So is this actually in the same category as "identifying as an attack helicopter" and hence horribly transphobic? We ought to complain to the Guardian in the strongest possible terms!

ArabellaScott · 06/02/2024 09:40

You've frowned and sighed, rolled your eyes and curled up your lip
Judy, are you contemplating giving me the pip?
The Guardian of History tells me neopronouns goin' down

Oh, Judy
Don't take your nouns to town

WhereYouLeftIt · 06/02/2024 09:31

MrsWhattery · 05/02/2024 19:07

Found this explanation from judyself on the web:

”My gender is performer and my gender pronoun is 'judy’ because I wanted a gender pronoun that is an art piece, that makes people pause and consider and laugh because everyone is so uptight about getting it right.”

'Gender' is increasingly just a word that has zero meaning at all.'My gender is performer'? No, Mac - your gender is 'that feckin eejit'.

Let's try it in ReversedFerret's test sentence,

If you see Mac, could you please ask that feckin eejit if that feckin eejit can stop by my office and bring that feckin eejit's books with that feckin eejit? I don't need anyone else's books, just that feckin eejit's - but I need that feckin eejit to bring them that feckin eejit.

It's not perfect, but definitely reads more coherently.

Rightsraptor · 06/02/2024 09:26

I'd also like a performative pronoun.

As Mac has already taken Judy, I'll have Punch.

Boiledbeetle · 06/02/2024 09:19

NotBadConsidering · 06/02/2024 09:15

I’m going to use doink as my new pronoun for everything.

Sorry, doink mean doink going to use doink as doink pronoun.

Would you also be identifying as a wrestler?

wrestlemania x-seven wrestling GIF by WWE
NotBadConsidering · 06/02/2024 09:15

I’m going to use doink as my new pronoun for everything.

Sorry, doink mean doink going to use doink as doink pronoun.

HoneyButterPopcorn · 06/02/2024 08:13

What a doink.

popebishop · 06/02/2024 07:43

HoneyButterPopcorn · 06/02/2024 07:28

What the hell is she talking about? Who is MAC? The lesbian one with the trans kid?

Taylor Mac is the writer named in the first line of the article.

SaltPorridge · 06/02/2024 07:36

Not helpful. posts casually proposing violence. reporting

HoneyButterPopcorn · 06/02/2024 07:28

What the hell is she talking about? Who is MAC? The lesbian one with the trans kid?