Responses to Nancy Kelly really staring to show the cracks in support of gender ideology tactis.

Nancy can delete her post for all I care. The comments are what made me think.
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My own comment. Here, not on that article.
I've never seen society so nastily divided on so many issues.
I believe very strongly in women having access, protected in law, to female only spaces. Both for safety and for comfort. But I don't want to other everyone who disagrees with me. They are humans just like me, and I want them to have the same rights and protections in law that I enjoy. No less, no more, equal.
From the comments copied above it's clear that not everyone on the other side believes that how Nancy Kelley behaved was the right way to handle things. I can only imagine how much better the relationship between women and trans people would be if the commenter above had been in Nancy's position at Stonewall. How Stonewall might still been seen as the de facto voice of gay, lesbian, and bisexual people, alongside their new trans friends. How there would be no need for The LGB Alliance. How rape centres might still be centering rape victims as their priority.
I think we should remember that Nancy is only one person, and not everyone, in fact probably only a small minority are as extreme and deluded as she is. Let's not let this fight for women's rights make us lesser people.

Platinum
4 months ago
An excellent article Nancy. Thank you for taking the time to analysis the data contained in the latest survey and contextualise it.
I really am saddened by how much of the media, politicians, the evangelical right and populists generally have united in their campaign to denigrate, marginalise and in some cases eliminate trans people from society.
The idea that one third of UK society is prepared to willing admit to being prejudiced towards such a small group is simply horrible.

Ana D
4 months ago
This from Nancy Kelley, the married lesbian who compares lesbians like me to racists for not having sex with men who call themselves ‘trans’.

Nancy implied that homosexuality and heterosexuality are caused by societal prejudice and that we should consider how society might have shaped our attractions.

The irony is apparently lost on Nancy that we would all be heterosexual if we were desperate to fit in with society more broadly. How lucky she must be to have never been attacked or lost a job for being a lesbian.

Trans activists regularly send violent threats to those who disagree with their homophobic, child abusing, misogynist, anti-reality movement.

Turns out people just don’t like what they see.

Recl
4 months ago
'With all beliefs including controversial beliefs there is a right to express those beliefs publicly and where they're harmful or damaging - whether it's anti-Semitic beliefs, gender critical beliefs, beliefs about disability - we have legal systems that are put in place for people who are harmed by that."
Challenged as to whether it might be considered offensive to compare anti-Semitic beliefs to gender-critical views, she insisted it was appropriate.'
(www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57281448)
Not sure you ever counted yourself as a 'trans-ally'. Hey, it's difficult these days. Only a few days ago I was told I was a 'transphobe', and I thought I was an ally, albeit a 'pragmatic ally'.
I'm not sure you were ever an ally though; your words, in interviews and speeches are routinely reproduced by those who now rejoice in the term 'TERF'. If you were an enemy of the trans-cause it would hard to distinguish what you would have been able to do that was different to what you actually did whilst you reckoned you were an ally.
Stonewall is in a dreadful state, the LGB Alliance increasingly seen as being representative of gay men and lesbian women; an out-and-out, in-depth anti-trans opposition has formed and no amount of squealing 'Nazi!' or 'bigot!' is touching it. At some point the lesbian and gay community are actually going to combine, and then they'll join-up with the gender-critical women (who aren't lesbians) in the fashion they did with the AIDs crisis...and then things will be really 'stuffed'.
Social media, the redoubt for the trans-cause, is now utterly lost to the GC movement. Witness the ruthless pursuit of tran-allies in any and every thread. Which leaves the ability to demonstrate and protest. But that means trusting that the black-clad-and-masked men who frequent such events aren't going to do something stupid. They've managed to do some pretty stupid things to-date, and get filmed from multiple angles doing it.
So leadership is needed, and for trans and their allies, that is sadly lacking. Hyperbole and over-egging is rife & the public has grown weary and cynical.
The minimum requirement was to avoid the impression that there was a conflict between trans rights and women's rights. Easy to do, surely? The strategy though saw tens-of-thousands of death-and-rape threats against women, particularly lesbians, who promptly record them with screenshots. The very worst possible thing to happen, did.
If the next British Social Attitudes Survey is going to see improvement, the trans community is going to need better leaders than...yourself.

3 comments on the article. Going to repost all 3 to give the full context. Not cherry picking.

Ends up at this article by Nancy Kelley
https://medium.com/@nancymirandakelley/is-the-uk-public-getting-more-transphobic-c245165f6eb