Starmer: "trans-inclusive" conversion therapy ban, "modernise" the GRA, all hate crime to be aggravated offences as part of making every child "proud and confident"

That would be the polite term for it.

Most of the name calling is going the other way tbh
And it was a great own goal by whoever posted the diva article and bolded the entirely reasonable sounding summary. Properly funny.

Is this irony?

I don’t think anyone who stands up for women’s sex based rights is ‘fragile’ anyway

The amount of abuse from men and others

Brilliant all of them

I'm loving the frothing and name calling on this thread, especially as it's coming from the Right Side of History tm

😬

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😂 is ‘fragile’ the new one

Laughing

And enjoying the majority yanbu on that thread

I've noticed.

Going nuts?
As if, what a strange take from that thread 😁
You've got a very fragile view of what going nuts means if that's nuts for you 😂

I love parrots 🦜

Haha

I’m enjoying the Labour lot going nuts on the other thread

The obligatory ‘I’m GC but..’ 😬

Oh you are all funny. Such fragile egos that you see a discussion as "scolding".

My MP has stopped describing herself as a lesbian.
She's now LGBT.
She can fuck right off with that carry on as far as I'm concerned.

The whole thing is a total shit show in the making. It is inevitable.

1. What does 'making things easier' for trans people ( i.e male people) look like in practice - certainly if you say you are also committed to retaining single sex provisions and exemptions whereby male people can be excluded?
2. What is the actual purpose of an easier to obtain GRC ( effectively Self ID) if not to remove 'blockages' such as the rights to dignity and privacy of women and girls in the form of single sex spaces, services and sports?
3. What does someone having a GRC mean for everyone else? Are there certain expectations on them - and if so, what are they?

Labour really have not thought any of this through at all. It is going to be a total legal and logistical quagmire. They have usurped critical reasoning for short term brownie points and fudge.

Laughing at the other thread Labour lot really don’t like it coming up

I’ll take heart that at least the majority feel as I do on that one, when it all goes to shit we can blame people together

Also these posters that go on about no one cares also go on about Starmer ‘changing’

I mean he hasn’t but he has realised that politically it’s a shit move

That’s down to women speaking up. The no one cares lot did nothing, in fact worse tried to make sure politicians didn’t have to change at all

Tf for the women who do care

All these threads go the same way.

People say they are politically homeless because of this, and other people rock up to scold, lecture and hector...

The Self-Identified Good Parties are Owed Everybody's Votes. If You Don't Vote Against the Bad Parties, You Are Evil/Stupid.

Here's A List of Stuff That Is Important To Good People, If You Don't Adhere Precisely To This List You Are Evil/Stupid.

And the clincher...

Well You Were Always A Bad Party Shill Anyway, You Are Lying About Your Previous Political Position, So You Are Irrelevant.

Do you know, I'm a floating voter, I always vote but I've voted for all political parties in the past. Seeing the behaviour of some of the posters on here has permanently changed my mind about the Labour party. I can't vote Lib Dem because they are fully trans committed and not in a good way. I might vote for the Greens If there's anything left of them after all their Court cases about their behaviour towards women and Shahrar Ali. At the moment they have been taken over by men's rights activists.
As I said my local Tory MP is a supporter of women's rights and is allowed by her party to say so. So she's getting my vote when she stands.

There are a good view vote scolders on there. Most of the usual suspects.

And the ones that go on about ‘no one cares’

@GailBlancheViola yes. Many times.

There are a good view vote scolders on there. Most of the usual suspects.

The collective disbelief that not everybody who can't vote Labour isn't just a usual Tory voter is exceptionally frustrating. The attitude absolutely stinks from the fervent supporters.

Has the hectoring Labour Lecturer descended on the AIBU thread to tell them all how wrong they are yet?

I’m pretty sure those AIBU voting threads would be chucked out to here with everyone going nuts at seeing at

Vote is majority yanbu on this one which is good to see