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Starmer: "trans-inclusive" conversion therapy ban, "modernise" the GRA, all hate crime to be aggravated offences as part of making every child "proud and confident"

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ResisterRex · 30/01/2024 10:26

Exclusive in Diva, following a reception at a LGBT+ Labour event in Parliament on 29 Jan:

https://diva-magazine.com/2024/01/29/exclusive-keir-starmer-lgbtqia-rights/

"“We’ll strengthen the law, so every category of hate crime is treated as an aggravated offence,” Starmer said. “We’ll cut NHS waiting lists for LGBT+ people waiting for urgent physical and mental health care. We’ll modernise the Gender Recognition Act. We’ll implement a full, trans-inclusive, ban on all forms of conversion therapy. We fully support the view that conversion therapy is psychologically damaging abuse.”

“We are committed to a decade of national renewal and will work with all the organisations in this room tonight so every child can feel proud and confident in who they are, to stand up for LGBT+ rights at home and abroad and to get Britain’s future back.”

The mention of children is unclear but must have a background to the full speech? LGBT Labour hasn't tweeted about it but others have. Rayner and Dodds also in attendance.

https://x.com/djrm94/status/1752057964767101041?s=46&t=WHoOZ_3Kv5G6-FyQuvE0LQ

https://x.com/stevenatkins/status/1752256944843162016?s=46&t=WHoOZZ_3Kv5G6-FyQuvE0LQ

x.com/anuox/status/1752094930074325420?s=46&t=WHoOZ_3Kv5G6-FyQuvE0LQ

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EmpressaurusOfTheScathingTinsel · 30/01/2024 13:35

This crap makes it embarrassing to be an L because people think we’re part of this….!!!

Igneococcus · 30/01/2024 13:35

I also think there is a personal reason for him to do this. I'm the sister of a politician (not in the UK), there is no way my brother would ever commit an unforced error like this one unless he really utterly believes it.

Leah5678 · 30/01/2024 13:33

Howtheweeshtwaswon · 30/01/2024 11:47

“We’ll cut NHS waiting lists for LGBT+ people waiting for urgent physical and mental health care."

Can someone explain to me why LGB and T(and whatever the plus means) people should take priority over everyone else? Is that even legal? It really shouldn't be. 🙄

Exactly my thought when I read the op. Nevermind the children with cancer no we're going to focus on mutilating healthy genitals for trans. Surely it's discrimination to prioritise someone just because they're LGBT?

flyingbuttress43 · 30/01/2024 13:31

Starmer "It's wrong to say only women have a cervix" - September 2021.

He told us who he is then. Why are people surprised now? The question is: is he stupid in which case he's not fit to be PM, is he a hypocrite, in which case he is not fit to be PM or is he cynical and targeting the young in which case he's just being your usual morality-free politician. I'm leaning towards all three.....

What I've never got an evidenced-based answer to is who exactly started this ideology and why? We can postulate anything from big pharma to perverts at the seat of power globally and everything in between, but until we really understand the sinister powers behind the throne, we will struggle to defeat it.

AlecTrevelyan006 · 30/01/2024 13:31

What does ‘modernise the GRA’ even mean?

Froodwithatowel · 30/01/2024 13:28

Thanks for coming out with it Starmer. You are the woman-hating nutjob I took you for.

ChatBFP · 30/01/2024 13:19

I actually like my Tory MP, so that relieves a bit of the guilt I feel in voting for the party on this issue!

SinnerBoy · 30/01/2024 13:17

SidewaysOtter · Today 12:31

And there was me thinking that he'd wait until after an election win before he showed his true colours.

Looking at our local lot, I'll be spoiling my ballot. I just cannot ever vote Tory.

IamRoyFuckingKent · 30/01/2024 13:08

I've never voted Tory in my life but I will next time. Respect my sex if you want my X

Nabooh · 30/01/2024 13:05

ConcertaFirstTimer · 30/01/2024 10:58

Please don't vote Tory because of this single (extremely important) issue. I know it affects over 50% of us detrimentally, but Tory policy affects even more of us detrimentally - all but the very wealthy.

I'm on sickness benefits. Poor as they come an dim considering voting Tory for the first time in my life.

My daughter has already been dragged into this gender questioning nightmare.

It's needs to end.

pronounsbundlebundle · 30/01/2024 13:00

Yep voting against Labour now. Hoping there will be an independent and - ideally - party of woman candidate so I don't actually have to vote Tory, but will do so if I have to.

Obviously the lib dems are even worse than labour. Apparently it's actually a con / lib dem contest here and quite close. I quite like the lib dem candidate and I suspect he's not intent on destroying women's rights as he has daughters that he seems to care about but whilst the lib dem stance is outright denial of reality, destruction of safeguarding and women's rights, I don't have a lot of choice.

EasternStandard · 30/01/2024 12:57

Well at least it’s out there and all those posters telling us Labour will be good for women’s rights are kaput

HooverIsAlwaysBroken · 30/01/2024 12:54

“We’ll cut NHS waiting lists for LGBT+ people waiting for urgent physical and mental health care."

this really upsets me. We have lost one family member to butchered cancer treatment and one friend to suicide. Neither were part of LGBTQ+. Apparently they don’t matter.

I have daughters, I will have to hold my nose and vote Tory as well.

EmpressaurusOfTheScathingTinsel · 30/01/2024 12:51

Everyone knows that LGBT+ is code for T.

I wish they’d be honest about that, unless they’re actually saying I can walk into A&E, announce that I’m lesbian & jump the queue. Which would obviously be completely ridiculous.

Hepwo · 30/01/2024 12:49

It's nonsense isn't it?
Will I just have to announce that I'm bisexual to get seen sooner for urgent treatment?

I can be a gay man if that's quicker?

SquirrelsAssemble · 30/01/2024 12:45

Howtheweeshtwaswon · 30/01/2024 11:47

“We’ll cut NHS waiting lists for LGBT+ people waiting for urgent physical and mental health care."

Can someone explain to me why LGB and T(and whatever the plus means) people should take priority over everyone else? Is that even legal? It really shouldn't be. 🙄

And are they telling us there's nobody desperate enough to coach their struggling, mentally unwell child "Tell them you might be the opposite sex and you'll get help quicker"

I'm trying to think of a healthcare situation where a self-selecting group (i.e. no measurable criteria like there were for COVID jabs for over 65s) have been prioritised for treatment.

Flowers4me · 30/01/2024 12:41

I'm not shocked but I'm a bit disappointed; I was hoping they'd consider us women. So, no I won't be voting them and will actively vote against them now.

Mummyoflittledragon · 30/01/2024 12:36

Nope not voting labour this time. Did hold my nose and do so time…not that it will make much difference. I live in a Tory stronghold.

KissTheRains · 30/01/2024 12:35

Tory voter here I come, I never thought I'd live to see this day.

EasternStandard · 30/01/2024 12:33

SidewaysOtter · 30/01/2024 12:31

And there was me thinking that he'd wait until after an election win before he showed his true colours. But no, he's gone balls deep now, including intimation that trans healthcare will get some sort of priority, it'll be easier to obtain a GRC, affirmation-only will be the only accepted outcome for a child who says they're trans, and women's rights, safeties and identities will be shafted from here to Christmas.

Slipperier than a greased weasel.

God dreading this

CaramelMac · 30/01/2024 12:32

I want to vote Labour, I really do, but I can’t support a party where the leader takes the position that a man can be a woman, I simply can’t. I know that’s a privileged position to be in but I blame Labour for putting me in this position.

SidewaysOtter · 30/01/2024 12:31

ConcertaFirstTimer · 30/01/2024 10:58

Please don't vote Tory because of this single (extremely important) issue. I know it affects over 50% of us detrimentally, but Tory policy affects even more of us detrimentally - all but the very wealthy.

Nope, you don't get to tell anyone how to vote. Fuck off with that.

You want to be angry about people voting Tory? Be angry with Labour for being impossible to vote for.

SidewaysOtter · 30/01/2024 12:31

And there was me thinking that he'd wait until after an election win before he showed his true colours. But no, he's gone balls deep now, including intimation that trans healthcare will get some sort of priority, it'll be easier to obtain a GRC, affirmation-only will be the only accepted outcome for a child who says they're trans, and women's rights, safeties and identities will be shafted from here to Christmas.

Slipperier than a greased weasel.

Helloandgoodmorning2 · 30/01/2024 12:30

I certainly wont be voting Labour or Lib Dem over this issue. We need more secure housing association tenancies; GP surgeries are businesses now and the health of our children was f**d by the lockdowns. I wish we had a party that really stood up for the health and well being of women and children.