Starmer: "trans-inclusive" conversion therapy ban, "modernise" the GRA, all hate crime to be aggravated offences as part of making every child "proud and confident"

No not Soros-look up the Pritzker family in the US. An incredibly wealthy and powerful dynasty of policians and CEOs, not least their own company which makes, you guessed it....synthetic hormones used in transition.

To prioritise trans treatment is not right, just because you aren’t LBGTQ+ doesn’t make you worth less.

Starmer doesn’t give a flying fuck about the LGB. This is purely about the TQ and we’re just tacked on. I wish we weren’t.

Yes. It's so disingenuous. He needs to spell out what he means. Presumably he doesn't mean that gay men will be ushered up the cancer queue faster than heterosexual men, or that lesbians will be prioritised for fertility treatment over straight couples. He can only mean that people with gender dysphoria will have shorter waiting times than they do at present for double mastectomies or testosterone/oestrogen supplements. In a health service that is creaking at the seams, it is difficult to see how prioritising these treatments is going to be a vote-winner with the general public.

Are they?? Then what is the point of them???

Me too @HooverIsAlwaysBroken it is disturbing. My mum was denied healthcare (pre covid) because the male GP assumed her pain was due to female ageing. That's misogyny (and ageism) right there; denying her timely access to health care and affecting her family and friends. This is why I cannot vote a party that diminishes female rights. My mum could not get any lower than where she is; disabled and terminally ill due to male arrogance. I know she is not the only one in this situation, but this whole madness is so upsetting.

Yep my heart just sinks now when Starmer opens his mouth. I want sane Labour 🌹

I've spoken to my prospective conservative candidate, she said a woman is an adult human female, and full in supports single sex spaces. She is replacing Crispin Blunt in the next elections.
I will be voting for her.

I am genuinely upset by the statement of healthcare. I mourn our dead family member. Cancer treatment was delayed until too late. Our friend (suicide) had a family and I am desperately upset for the children. To prioritise trans treatment is not right, just because you aren’t LBGTQ+ doesn’t make you worth less.

separately, I have read so many tragic stories of de transitioning and so many countries are stepping away from affirmative care.

if Starmer has any personal reasons to be supportive of trans, he should handle that privately. On a societal level, this is madness.

I wouldn’t trust Keir Starmer to put the bins out on the right day, let alone run the country. He twists and turns more often than a weather vane in a storm and has the personality of a wet wipe. I have voted Labour in every single GE, (with the exception of when Jeremy Corbyn was in charge) even when my vote was lost in a sea of blue, but I’ll be fucked if I would ever vote for that duplicitous nonentity of a man.

Any Labour people who might be monitoring this thread:

Please convey my genuine heartfelt thanks to Starmer for so clearly and unambiguously informing the electorate of the priorities of a potential Labour government; it is rare these days to have such straightforward clarity from any politician.

#OperationLetThemSpeak

If I identify as a man, do I get my nhs appointment quicker then (assuming Labour get in)? Could be interesting …

Probs the same thing I read.

It likely isnt true then.
This whole movement has been going on since the *80s. They've had some luck, and got people into great positions in the civil service, service user places, big companies, IT/tech etc, where they are useful. But its definitely been ongoing since the 80s.
What was Soros doing in the 80s?
He might have some input more recently, and maybe threw cash at the whole concept, but I'm no longer sure he was the master.

• maybe before the 80s. A historian might benefit us now.

I hate the tories as much as the next struggling person but there is no denying that they are paving the way for all this bullshit to be contained whilst Labour insist on doubling down and promoting it.

If the "help" is affirmation only and the inexorable path to cross-sex hormones and surgery, how much help would that actually be?

We’ll cut NHS waiting lists for LGBT+ people waiting for urgent physical and mental health care.

I didn't spot this initially so grateful to those who did.

What does he mean. Is he talking about gender affirming treatment if so its unwise to make these commitments ahead of the Cass review reporting. Or is he talking generally about prioritising LGBT+ for health care, which would breach the EA

Or, and more likely l think, was he just spouting soundbites that hadn't been thought through, just to keep the audience happy.

And are they telling us there's nobody desperate enough to coach their struggling, mentally unwell child "Tell them you might be the opposite sex and you'll get help quicker"

But Surely That Would Never Happen?

Looks like Starmer thinks a woman is anything a man thinks he is

Much of the entrenchment of gender bollocks slid on by, virtue signalled through during the Con/Lib coalition and not Lib flagship 'proportional representation' policy, and in Scotland Scottish Greens are the driving force behind GRR and Conversion Therapy bills, whilst cocking up their Deposit Return Scheme.

Is this a cunning ploy to have everyone waiting for elective surgery or useful MH interventions to declare themselves LGBT+?

Depends whether he and Labour mean LGBT+ or just T.

Yes Winnadin: I read that too going as far back as 2016 but I'm not sure how evidenced based it was and as far as I recall it didn't really get to the bottom of why.

LGB need to start separating themselves from the T. LGB are not the ones calling women terfs, threatening violence or murder or trying to get into schools to influence children, gay men are not trying to get into women's single spaces, sports categories or obliterate the word woman.

I knew Starmer couldn't be trusted an inch, his ambition is so desperate he is willing to throw women and children under the bus, put us in all kinds of danger, put our kids in danger from severe mental illness and groomers/paedophiles and make the NHS waiting list even longer for people who genuinely need it. He's trying to isolate children from their parents same as the SNP. He's shown he is a disgusting woman hater and lies through his teeth when he feels like it.

When is this sheer madness of entertaining a minority of misogynistic fantasists and bullies ever going to stop?

Starmer has got shit for brains and is a cowardly twat. This has made my decision for me. I'll be voting Tory, not just for women to have the right to define themselves by biological reality but in a desperate attempt to stop my trans identifying mentally ill young adult DC from destroying their life.

If anyone thinks that makes me hateful then they can fuck off.

Is this a cunning ploy to have everyone waiting for elective surgery* or useful MH interventions to declare themselves LGBT+?

After all, how could anyone disprove your assertion given that no evidence beyond self-ID is likely to be necessary (see 'simplification' of GRA)?

UK will be the most inclusive cohort of nations in the world.

*Because it's surely not only particular types of surgery? Why would that be in line with the Health and Social Care Act 2022, the NHS Charter, plausibly HRA 1998…

“We’ll cut NHS waiting lists for LGBT+ people waiting for urgent physical and mental health care.

God in heaven, how stupid can he be? He’s just handed the Tories a way to talk about the NHS to distract from their own dismal record. Now whenever Labour bring it up the Tories can go, ‘But Labour wants to push you to the back of the queue behind LGBTQ people and spend your hard earned money on sex changes!’