Starmer: "trans-inclusive" conversion therapy ban, "modernise" the GRA, all hate crime to be aggravated offences as part of making every child "proud and confident"

@Yesnosorryplease I see your (entirely unacceptable) five months and raise you to 36 months for gender confirmation surgery. No one is suggesting that cancer patients be given a lower priority - speeding up the tiny handful of trans surgeries won't impact that. I trust Labour over the Tories to reduce waiting times overall for everyone. Voting for the Tories to "spite the trans" will make things worse for everyone using the NHS.

This concerns me a lot as it seems to preempt the Cass Review

Well there's one of the first questions that should be put to him, right there.

I was comparing the number of surgeries, but yes, appendectomies are not elective, so fair enough.

This concerns me a lot as it seems to preempt the Cass Review and ignore the known issues around defining conversion therapy as it pertains to children experiencing gender distress.

I’m less concerned by the woman/cervix quote. The guy’s a lawyer and the law says woman can have penises. However one may feel about it, that just a statement of legal fact and any politician who denies or ignore that is an ignorant or conniving fuck.

Also less concerned by the reduce nhs wait times for lgbt - this is typically vacuous political guff and says nothing about prioritising that group over others.

Well, in some ways, but he was seen as a weak irrelevance...

Thankyou; you too. True; women are deemed unimportant and the older we get, the worse it gets.

That's harsh on Michael Foot!

Well, Sir Keir, if you're reading this, what is your take? Do you want to be the Michael Foot of this generation?

and shortages of HRT are not down to transgender people.

I never said they were.

Starmer and the rest of his misogynist cronies can get in the fucking bin

Beyond a joke when a 16 year old can get her tits lobbed off for no reason and yet millions remain on waiting lists, living with pain and misery.

I've said it before on MN, and I'll say it again: every time Keir Starmer opens his mouth, I like him a little less. He can fuck off with all that.

if Starmer has any personal reasons to be supportive of trans, he should handle that privately. On a societal level, this is madness.

Wasn't there something odd recently where he referred to having two sons, when previously it was said that he had one son and one daughter. Did anyone ever get to the bottom of that?

The current median waiting time for elective surgery is 14.5 weeks.

I imagine that’s some kind of official figure but it’s clearly bullshit. I wonder how they have managed to come up with it. I know numerous women who have waited over a year for urgent gynaecology appointments for such things as heavy menstrual bleeding going on for months at a time.

I mean quite, you literally die if you do not get an appendectomy when you have appendicitis.

Not at all the equivalent .

Appendectomies are not elective surgeries. They are emergency procedures.

It is not looking good for us but let us see how that clarify this issue over the next few months. Issue of their own making I would add. It is unlikely the Tories will make any statements soon to emphasise their position.

The waiting lists for gender confirmation surgery in the UK is about three years. The current median waiting time for elective surgery is 14.5 weeks. The number of surgeries for transgender people in an average in England is one a day - compare this with the number of appendectomies - 50,000. 2 million people were prescribed HRT, of which 11,000 were transgende people (0.6%).

Shortening the waiting list for people who need gender confirmation surgery to the NHS average will barely impact the NHS, and shortages of HRT are not down to transgender people.

And yes, gay people are affected, toom for example in mental health and fertility. They also suffer worse health outcomes overall.

https://www.england.nhs.uk/about/equality/equality-hub/patient-equalities-programme/lgbt-health/

What he means @RoyalCorgi is prioritising experimental plastic surgeries on, and the sterilisation of, gay, autistic and looked-after children who have mental health issues. It is so unbelievably sinister.

@Flowers4me I am so sorry for you and your mum 💐. Our relative was female as well - go figure. Women are really not considered to be worth anything.

The Nolan principles state:
Selflessness – Holders of public office should act solely in terms of the public interest.
Integrity - Holders of public office must avoid placing themselves under any obligation to people or organisations that might try inappropriately to influence them in their work.

In addition to the political capture of political parties by the trans lobby it's becoming evident that there may be personal / family issues also influencing what should be rational, evidence based political decisions.
Helen Joyce speaks very powerfully about the impact parents of gender questioning children can have on their workplaces. The impact of politicians with a vested interest in protecting their vulnerable children allowing this to influence public policy is very worrying:

Found it: this what you get when you follow the money. Absolutely ducking terrifying and this is why you will
never read or hear the word 'woman' in any context in America any more, medical, social or otherwise.

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/billionaire-family-pushing-synthetic-sex-identities-ssi-pritzkers

Open goal for desperate Tories.

WEP were all about the trans & the gender ideology right from the start, when they campaigned for men in women’s prisons.