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Starmer: "trans-inclusive" conversion therapy ban, "modernise" the GRA, all hate crime to be aggravated offences as part of making every child "proud and confident"

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ResisterRex · 30/01/2024 10:26

Exclusive in Diva, following a reception at a LGBT+ Labour event in Parliament on 29 Jan:

https://diva-magazine.com/2024/01/29/exclusive-keir-starmer-lgbtqia-rights/

"“We’ll strengthen the law, so every category of hate crime is treated as an aggravated offence,” Starmer said. “We’ll cut NHS waiting lists for LGBT+ people waiting for urgent physical and mental health care. We’ll modernise the Gender Recognition Act. We’ll implement a full, trans-inclusive, ban on all forms of conversion therapy. We fully support the view that conversion therapy is psychologically damaging abuse.”

“We are committed to a decade of national renewal and will work with all the organisations in this room tonight so every child can feel proud and confident in who they are, to stand up for LGBT+ rights at home and abroad and to get Britain’s future back.”

The mention of children is unclear but must have a background to the full speech? LGBT Labour hasn't tweeted about it but others have. Rayner and Dodds also in attendance.

https://x.com/djrm94/status/1752057964767101041?s=46&t=WHoOZ_3Kv5G6-FyQuvE0LQ

https://x.com/stevenatkins/status/1752256944843162016?s=46&t=WHoOZZ_3Kv5G6-FyQuvE0LQ

x.com/anuox/status/1752094930074325420?s=46&t=WHoOZ_3Kv5G6-FyQuvE0LQ

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Emotionalsupportviper · 06/02/2024 15:43

No need to apologise Resister.

None of it makes sense . . .

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ResisterRex · 06/02/2024 15:39

Floisme, from about 09:29:

https://www.parliamentlive.tv/Event/Index/caa0a16e-9554-4e04-9350-a5114c6cf8dd?gl=113hsy4z4zgaNjk1MzcyMTk2LjE3MDIzMTA0MzU..gaa_L0NJWDWMGN*MTcwNzIxMTU4MS4xNC4xLjE3MDcyMTE2MTEuMzAuMC4w

She was very cross about the overseas GRCs that the government will now recognise because the changes mean they don't include self-ID. She was annoyed that a 5year review has been built in, having spent time being very cross that this review took too long.

Sorry not to be able to make it make sense.

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ResisterRex · 06/02/2024 15:34

The one hit wonder of yore, 2 Unlimited, may be instructive in this regard:

🎵 No no
No no no no
No no no no
No no
IT WON'T HAPPEN!!!🎵

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Floisme · 06/02/2024 15:33

ResisterRex · 06/02/2024 14:03

It's a real risk. You only need to watch Dodds arguing for self-ID and against UK laws and standards in Parliament this morning to see what Labour will do with this.

I've missed this, what did she say?

Kucinghitam · 06/02/2024 15:15

EdithStourton · 06/02/2024 15:00

You've forgotten:
You're Part of the Religious Right, In Fact You're a Fascist

Has quite a catchy rhythm to it...

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We're writing a pretty good libretto here! But yes we shall need somebody to come up with the melody @NoWordForFluffy 🎵

We can also add:

That Will Never Happen, No No No 🎶

GailBlancheViola · 06/02/2024 15:09

Dodds was even singled out as being one of the ones totally on board with single sex only spaces and to be trusted.

Hmm.

GailBlancheViola · 06/02/2024 15:08

ResisterRex · 06/02/2024 14:03

It's a real risk. You only need to watch Dodds arguing for self-ID and against UK laws and standards in Parliament this morning to see what Labour will do with this.

But, but, but weren't we told not long ago on this very thread that that would never happen and women's rights and single sex only spaces will definitely, definitely be protected nay strengthened under Labour?

NoWordForFluffy · 06/02/2024 15:04

What tune are we singing this to? 🎶 🎤

EdithStourton · 06/02/2024 15:00

Kucinghitam · 06/02/2024 08:19

Still (🎶all together now 🎵)...

Nobody Cares About This
There Are More Important Things Than Genderism
Except That Genderism Is Really Important to Being Good
Only 6 Non-Genderists (and Their Socks) In The World So You Are Irrelevant
If You Say You Are Upset with Labour, You Were Always A Tory Voter So You Are Even More Irrelevant Anyway

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You've forgotten:
You're Part of the Religious Right, In Fact You're a Fascist

Has quite a catchy rhythm to it...

Floisme · 06/02/2024 14:51

As this thread seems to have come full circle I'll go back to an earlier post:
This is Labour's problem to fix and they could do so at any time if they so wished.

EasternStandard · 06/02/2024 14:06

ResisterRex · 06/02/2024 14:03

It's a real risk. You only need to watch Dodds arguing for self-ID and against UK laws and standards in Parliament this morning to see what Labour will do with this.

Yes.

Once sex based rights are lost they are rarely reinstated

Look at what Labour put in place with the GRA and all these issues

More so if the ability to challenge is reduced

AdamRyan · 06/02/2024 14:03

I feel the same way about when we come up against 5 years of a lying, corrupt, law breaking party who now know the British party will vote for them come what may. I shudder to think how much worse off we can get with 5 years more of the same.

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ResisterRex · 06/02/2024 14:03

It's a real risk. You only need to watch Dodds arguing for self-ID and against UK laws and standards in Parliament this morning to see what Labour will do with this.

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EasternStandard · 06/02/2024 13:56

ResisterRex · 06/02/2024 13:52

I completely understand this but I really really hope this doesn't happen, for all our sakes.

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Oh same

It’ll be too awful. Especially if it comes with new laws on misgendering

We might have been the only country to turn the tide

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ResisterRex · 06/02/2024 13:52

EasternStandard · 06/02/2024 13:50

I bet

It’ll be interesting when the pro Labour lot come up against decreased sex based rights

There’s a few posters I can think of

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I completely understand this but I really really hope this doesn't happen, for all our sakes.

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EasternStandard · 06/02/2024 13:50

I bet

It’ll be interesting when the pro Labour lot come up against decreased sex based rights

There’s a few posters I can think of

AdamRyan · 06/02/2024 13:48

Nah, I've posted here for years. I'll still be around. Might be time for a name change though, I've had this one for ages now

EasternStandard · 06/02/2024 13:40

People expect a lot from Labour with minuscule funding

If the further loss of sex based rights didn’t annoy me this much I’d almost look forward to Starmer trying to actually answer questions

lifeturnsonadime · 06/02/2024 13:39

@EasternStandard cross post!

lifeturnsonadime · 06/02/2024 13:38

AdamRyan · 06/02/2024 13:35

It will be interesting to see what happens come the GE that's for sure. And whether this board gets busier or quieter if Labour win.

I would put money on it getting busier, when the shit show of what Starmer is tying to sneak in becomes apparent to voters.

EasternStandard · 06/02/2024 13:37

Let’s see if Labour turns out to screw women over

It’ll get pretty loud indeed, you might be busy elsewhere though 😬

Your Labour waving might be even less popular

AdamRyan · 06/02/2024 13:35

It will be interesting to see what happens come the GE that's for sure. And whether this board gets busier or quieter if Labour win.

EasternStandard · 06/02/2024 13:33

Clever women those yanbu ers 😀

EasternStandard · 06/02/2024 13:30

Ah a majority happy days

AdamRyan · 06/02/2024 13:28

EasternStandard · 06/02/2024 12:15

😂 is ‘fragile’ the new one

Laughing

And enjoying the majority yanbu on that thread

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It's closing actually
Was 70% when the thread started, now down to 64%
That says to me that a particular persuasion saw the thread early - usually on threads about other issues the vote stays pretty static after a very short while, I've always found it interesting from a statistical sampling point of view 🤓

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