Starmer: "trans-inclusive" conversion therapy ban, "modernise" the GRA, all hate crime to be aggravated offences as part of making every child "proud and confident"

Like Hillary Clinton and her “deplorables” comment

I'm one of a growing number who feel disenfranchised.

That is the real tragedy and none of the Labour Lecturers seem to be able to acknowledge that or take it on board.

I'm a life-long Labour supporter too, but at this point, I can't criticise any Labour voters for voting Tory on this issue. And equally, I wouldn't blame Labour supporters who say they cannot vote Tory. This is the mess we are in. I'm one of a growing number who feel disenfranchised.

It's very sad that a Party I've voted for all my life appears to be full of people unwilling to acknowledge genuine concerns, and address them clearly and unequivocally. That's all they need to do. Not harangue and sneer.
That's how safe Labour seats were lost in previous elections.

No lessons learned.

They can’t see it either. It’s amazing

They never seem to learn, all the years I've been on MN every GE the insults re Tories and Tory voters fly around then when the Tories win they are all shocked and a further volley of insults flies around. Same with Brexit and that went on and on and on. They just can't seem to get the message that insults don't endear people to their cause.

Even if the posters don't respond there may be lurkers who are paying attention. I hope some of the major parties will notice this shift in societal attitudes and take action.

Deaf ears though, isn't it? Despite clearly not understanding the full implication of women losing their sex-based rights, they're very confident that they're superior in every way due to their voting choice. It reminds me of a Biffy Clyro lyric: 'You were not right, you were just righteous.' Seems apt!

Yep it’s why the vote is majority one way and insulting posts from same lot the other way override the threads. I think people just avoid

Kudos to anyone trying to explain why sex based rights are important

The options seem to boil down to:

1. Vote to throw the Tories out. Their performance over the last 14 years has been so abysmal that every other issue pales into insignificance and the Labour Party might not be as anti-woman as you fear anyway.

2. While the Tories have been absolutely abysmal for the last 14 years and there is no good reason to believe that they would be any better in the future, at the very least they won't move the dial any further against women.

I will think on this as I stand in the polling booth.

I can't read threads like that as the attitude from the die hard Labour voters frustrates the hell out of me. They throw insults like confetti.

@lifeturnsonadime I don’t know how you do it but massive 👏 for dealing with the rubbish getting lobbed your way

The insults from the pro Labour are flying on that thread

Glad to see the majority voting held up

Her long speech boils down to her arguing that the govt are making this change with bad motives. Labour would also carry out reviews if they were the govt but their reviews would be with good motives

so ridiculous

Blimey Dodds great job

Her long speech boils down to her arguing that the govt are making this change with bad motives. Labour would also carry out reviews if they were the govt but their reviews would be with good motives.

Haha I can imagine this

Watching it now and Dodds seems annoyed that it’s taken so long for the govt to review the process AND is annoyed that the govt is reviewing the process; she’d rather they didn’t 😵‍💫

Dodds completely neglects the 'women' part of her shadow brief.

Thanks ResisterRex, I'll have to watch it properly later but it sounds like it harks back to the exchange between Dodds and Badenoch in December, when Badenoch announced they were updating the list of countries with an approved GRC process in line with our own (e.g. removing any that used self ID)? It was something the Labour Government had previously committed to doing so there was really nothing for the opposition to object to and it would have been a really good opportunity for Dodds to reassure voters by restating Labour's opposition to self ID. But she preferred to carp and huff and grouch instead - it was a very poor performance.

🎶Up the leg of her drawers . . . 🎶

They don't write them like they used to . . .

Aunty Mary Had A Canary.