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London Bridge railway station political gender flags - how to complain

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fromorbit · 29/01/2024 10:10

There is a lot of concern on twitter over a set of flag illustrations on a pillar at London Bridge Station.

https://www.networkrail.co.uk/stories/london-bridge-station-celebrates-lgbt-history-month/

Sex Matters have now issued a formal complaint to the authorities about it see letter below.

We have written to Andrew Haines @networkrail and @LordPeterHendy about the intimidating political display at London Bridge station

You can make a complaint here https://communications-crm.custhelp.com/app/ask?var=complaint

This has resulted in the discovery that Shane Andrews, Network rail’s LGBT+ lead, who is also a scout leader (and a trustee of the Scouts), an independent police custody inspector, a school governor - used abusive sexist/homophobe slang all over his social media. He went on a huge deleting spree, but copies of his tweets are being shared widely.
https://twitter.com/obsolete__units/status/1751554910577930591

https://twitter.com/Sptme1/status/1751606559434514831

London Bridge railway station political gender flags - how to complain
London Bridge railway station political gender flags - how to complain
London Bridge railway station political gender flags - how to complain
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Redshoeblueshoe · 30/01/2024 20:04

Scouts have tweeted Shane has been booted out.

Emotionalsupportviper · 30/01/2024 18:39

AyrshireTryer · 30/01/2024 16:14

I like the flags on the pillar.

Well, good for you, dear.

RethinkingLife · 30/01/2024 17:37

Theyarehere · 30/01/2024 16:54

Good! I hope he wasn’t given much of a choice the foolish foolish creep.

I wonder who sexes the chickens Bore?

We're accustomed to ill-concealed misogyny but it would be beyond disturbing to have somebody with this social media history sitting on a panel that celebrates women and their achievements.

It would be difficult to accept the decision-making involved.

JustTalkToThem · 30/01/2024 16:57

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Theyarehere · 30/01/2024 16:54

Good! I hope he wasn’t given much of a choice the foolish foolish creep.

I wonder who sexes the chickens Bore?

BoreOfWhabylon · 30/01/2024 16:34

Chickens coming home to roost...

London Bridge railway station political gender flags - how to complain
AyrshireTryer · 30/01/2024 16:14

I like the flags on the pillar.

Datun · 30/01/2024 14:17

BoreOfWhabylon · 30/01/2024 14:06

And the flag scene at the end @Datun ! Grin

Oh yes!!!

It's got everything an EDI consultant could dream of!!

BoreOfWhabylon · 30/01/2024 14:06

And the flag scene at the end @Datun ! Grin

Datun · 30/01/2024 14:04

BoreOfWhabylon · 30/01/2024 13:37

Victoria Wood's glorious Brief Encounter parody is just crying out for an update to incorporate all this nonsense Grin

Genius

I'd gone into Wilverton as usual on a Thursday to change my library book and order a coconut

Honestly. London Bridge would do better to have that on a loop

And it's definitely inclusive.

"And what I can't explain, dear, dear Fred is how I came to run away with Dolly Anstacott"

BoreOfWhabylon · 30/01/2024 13:37

Victoria Wood's glorious Brief Encounter parody is just crying out for an update to incorporate all this nonsense Grin

Victoria Wood Brief Encounter parody

Hang in for the shocking finish! Worth the while of this delightful remake of the Noel Coward classic!

https://youtu.be/DPa3IbHOma4?si=STrFUsbB1cef9yTo

SinnerBoy · 30/01/2024 13:21

IcakethereforeIam · Today 13:01

I want someone to amend the QR code so it sends people to Fair Play for Women.

You win the thread!

duc748 · 30/01/2024 13:16

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Boiledbeetle · 30/01/2024 13:16

IcakethereforeIam · 30/01/2024 13:02

Or Rick Astley.

That would be good!

Christmas Party Fun GIF by Rick Astley
Datun · 30/01/2024 13:13

This occurs to me all the time. These things are all, basically, about sex - who you sleep with (and when/how). Is the T also about sex??

Well AGP is.

And Blanchard said that the other type of transwomen (homosexual transsexual) also is. In that gay men's internalised homophobia is so great, they don't want to acknowledge it, so turn themselves into women so they can date 'straight men'.

But yes, it all seems about how you get to the point of shagging someone.

It really does show up their gargantuan preoccupation with getting sex.

And how they've managed to sanitise it so a fucking railway company thinks they should be haranguing passengers with it!

Celia Johnson would turn in her grave.

IamRoyFuckingKent · 30/01/2024 13:02

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 30/01/2024 12:58

It's pretty hard to avoid the feeling that the flags are for people who need to feel special and not like the other boys and girls. Those of us who somehow make it through the day without needing a flag are too boring to be celebrated.

The cynicism in initiatives like this is blatant. It would cost a lot of money to make every railway station in the land fully accessible to people with disabilities and to increase staffing, replace rolling stock and improve staff training so that stations are safer and services are more reliable for everybody. They haven't got that money, or at any rate not without cutting senior management bonuses and dividends to the private companies running much of the network, so cheap boxticking exercises like this get the green light instead. Whoopy doo.

Meant to quote the poster suggesting the QR code was amended to direct to a feminist site. I wish someone would do it.

IcakethereforeIam · 30/01/2024 13:02

Or Rick Astley.

IcakethereforeIam · 30/01/2024 13:01

I want someone to amend the QR code so it sends people to Fair Play for Women 😁

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 30/01/2024 12:58

It's pretty hard to avoid the feeling that the flags are for people who need to feel special and not like the other boys and girls. Those of us who somehow make it through the day without needing a flag are too boring to be celebrated.

The cynicism in initiatives like this is blatant. It would cost a lot of money to make every railway station in the land fully accessible to people with disabilities and to increase staffing, replace rolling stock and improve staff training so that stations are safer and services are more reliable for everybody. They haven't got that money, or at any rate not without cutting senior management bonuses and dividends to the private companies running much of the network, so cheap boxticking exercises like this get the green light instead. Whoopy doo.

Catabogus · 30/01/2024 12:57

Datun · 30/01/2024 12:33

The whole thing is a description of all the different types of sex one might like.

And the person in charge seems to do nothing but talk about how they hate women and how they fancy young men.

It seems like an exercise in pruriency.

This occurs to me all the time. These things are all, basically, about sex - who you sleep with (and when/how). Is the T also about sex??

If so, then we sure as hell don’t want transwomen in rape crisis centres and ladies’ loos and women’s prisons!! If it’s not, then what on earth is it doing lumped in with all the others?

Datun · 30/01/2024 12:33

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 30/01/2024 11:56

This display at Network Rail seems to involve much celebrating of straight people. On just one side of that pillar, we've got Straight Ally flag, the Demisexual flag (people who only feel sexual attraction to people they have an emotional bond with, which automatically encompasses many straight people), and the Polyamorous flag (which encompasses straight men and women who want to shag multiple people).

Are straight people the +?

The whole thing is a description of all the different types of sex one might like.

And the person in charge seems to do nothing but talk about how they hate women and how they fancy young men.

It seems like an exercise in pruriency.

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 30/01/2024 11:56

This display at Network Rail seems to involve much celebrating of straight people. On just one side of that pillar, we've got Straight Ally flag, the Demisexual flag (people who only feel sexual attraction to people they have an emotional bond with, which automatically encompasses many straight people), and the Polyamorous flag (which encompasses straight men and women who want to shag multiple people).

Are straight people the +?

SidewaysOtter · 30/01/2024 11:52

RhymesWithOrange · 30/01/2024 11:40

@SidewaysOtter is there a share token?

It's in the OP's post at 08:31 this morning :)

Datun · 30/01/2024 11:44

This from the guy who invented that polyamory flag in 1995

...and black, representing solidarity with those who, though they are open and honest with all participants of their relationships, must hide those relationships from the outside world due to societal pressures. The symbol in the center of the flag is a gold Greek lowercase letter 'pi', as the first letter of 'polyamory'.

Polyamory is sleeping around. Why would you have to hide that from the outside world?

http://jimevansmusic.blogspot.com/2016/08/polyamory-pride-flags-and-patterns-of.html?m=1

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RhymesWithOrange · 30/01/2024 11:40

@SidewaysOtter is there a share token?