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London Bridge railway station political gender flags - how to complain

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fromorbit · 29/01/2024 10:10

There is a lot of concern on twitter over a set of flag illustrations on a pillar at London Bridge Station.

https://www.networkrail.co.uk/stories/london-bridge-station-celebrates-lgbt-history-month/

Sex Matters have now issued a formal complaint to the authorities about it see letter below.

We have written to Andrew Haines @networkrail and @LordPeterHendy about the intimidating political display at London Bridge station

You can make a complaint here https://communications-crm.custhelp.com/app/ask?var=complaint

This has resulted in the discovery that Shane Andrews, Network rail’s LGBT+ lead, who is also a scout leader (and a trustee of the Scouts), an independent police custody inspector, a school governor - used abusive sexist/homophobe slang all over his social media. He went on a huge deleting spree, but copies of his tweets are being shared widely.
https://twitter.com/obsolete__units/status/1751554910577930591

https://twitter.com/Sptme1/status/1751606559434514831

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FrancescaContini · 08/03/2024 19:14

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 08/03/2024 18:25

I think that's been put up by a feminist passenger. Maybe even a mumsnetter.If it was a TfL thing, it would be the whole pillar.

Whoever did it - well done!

duc748 · 08/03/2024 18:34

That's what I was thinking.

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 08/03/2024 18:25

I think that's been put up by a feminist passenger. Maybe even a mumsnetter.If it was a TfL thing, it would be the whole pillar.

duc748 · 08/03/2024 16:17

Is that even something 'official' from TfL, or maybe initiated by an individual employee? I wonder, cos of the lack of explanatory text.

Peskysquirrel · 08/03/2024 16:09

Wow!
And I've only just realised Mumsnet's changed its logo colours. How observant am I...

AyrshireTryer · 08/03/2024 16:04

Can you believe what London Bridge Station did for International Women's Day!

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IIdentifyAsInnocent · 10/02/2024 11:04

I would expect they won't disclose due to it being about an individual

Boiledbeetle · 10/02/2024 08:35

IIdentifyAsInnocent · 09/02/2024 19:51

I complained to Network rail about this. They have just closed the case with no formal response except to say they are aware and won't comment further. Cheeky fuckers!

is it possible to do a FOI to see how many complaints they got and how many they fobbed off?

IIdentifyAsInnocent · 09/02/2024 19:51

I complained to Network rail about this. They have just closed the case with no formal response except to say they are aware and won't comment further. Cheeky fuckers!

DerekFaker · 31/01/2024 07:27

RethinkingLife · 30/01/2024 23:34

The Palace obviously does no due diligence about its awards nor who it invites to Garden Parties and such!

I'm beginning to regard these awards as an index of suspicion and wonder if they're any more than a Third Sector stepping stone to the carousel.

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From rubbing shoulders with various people on committees and boards, etc, I think it's the other way around. One position begets more, and more until - "Wow, what a good person you are!* - have an MBE!"

*and I'm sure a lot of them are, but some of them really aren't and are in it for themselves

SinnerBoy · 31/01/2024 06:04

I hope he will have the MBE removed.

Helleofabore · 31/01/2024 00:57

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 30/01/2024 11:56

This display at Network Rail seems to involve much celebrating of straight people. On just one side of that pillar, we've got Straight Ally flag, the Demisexual flag (people who only feel sexual attraction to people they have an emotional bond with, which automatically encompasses many straight people), and the Polyamorous flag (which encompasses straight men and women who want to shag multiple people).

Are straight people the +?

Only special ones neighbourhood. It is like in reality there is a flag that covers every single planet on that pole there if only we felt the need to label ourselves.

BlackeyedSusan · 30/01/2024 23:41

IamRoyFuckingKent · 29/01/2024 11:12

I've complained. Well done. YY to wonder whether they'd be ok with a suffragette flag. Or ribbons?

Haberdashery?

Nah, some twonk who hasn't been to Specsavers, will think it's a noose or summat!

RethinkingLife · 30/01/2024 23:34

BoreOfWhabylon · 30/01/2024 22:19

Thing is, all those awful posts have been on his social media for years under his name. Did no one in the various organisations he's been involved in notice?

The Palace obviously does no due diligence about its awards nor who it invites to Garden Parties and such!

I'm beginning to regard these awards as an index of suspicion and wonder if they're any more than a Third Sector stepping stone to the carousel.

BoreOfWhabylon · 30/01/2024 22:19

Thing is, all those awful posts have been on his social media for years under his name. Did no one in the various organisations he's been involved in notice?

PotteringPondering · 30/01/2024 21:51

Complaint sent. Thanks for highlighting the link. Sick of all this nonsense.

TheCadoganArms · 30/01/2024 21:19

Boiledbeetle · 30/01/2024 21:02

I bet the scouts were glad that was the news they were able to convey! Otherwise they'd have been having to answer questions about a guy who likes taking fotos of cute young men without them knowing.

They will be nicking the idea though and making a 'Pride Teepee' that will end up looking like an exploded Nigerian sofa.

RethinkingLife · 30/01/2024 21:04

SoreAndTired1 · 30/01/2024 20:40

On a more recent tweet, Scouts say he hasn't been a member for 2.5 years. So it seems he was already gone.

So, this wasn't a positive action by the Scouts but a confirmation that he'd not been active with them or a member for some time.

BTW, given the FWR interest in trustees, it seems Andrews was a trustee of his Cardiff East district of the Scout Association. In addition to being a school governor, independent Police custody inspector etc.

Has anyone else long lost any confidence in Pillar of Society posts and status?

Boiledbeetle · 30/01/2024 21:02

I bet the scouts were glad that was the news they were able to convey! Otherwise they'd have been having to answer questions about a guy who likes taking fotos of cute young men without them knowing.

SoreAndTired1 · 30/01/2024 20:40

On a more recent tweet, Scouts say he hasn't been a member for 2.5 years. So it seems he was already gone.

SoreAndTired1 · 30/01/2024 20:38

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RethinkingLife · 30/01/2024 20:24

Redshoeblueshoe · 30/01/2024 20:16

Sorry - I need to learn how to do screenshots, hopefully someone else will supply one

I can see Twitter screenshots of this from Daily Mail story but I didn't take that as meaning he's been booted, more that he hasn't been involved since then. (I'd like to be wrong, I'd like Scouts to have taken +ve action.)

Mr Andrews was awarded an MBE in the 2021 New Year's Honours Lists for his work to boost inclusivity, referencing his work as a Scout leader. He is no longer a member of the Scouts.
At the time Network Rail described the achievement as 'instrumental in helping us become more reflective of the communities we serve'.

https://twitter.com/dabooboo38/status/1752290152880234874

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Rightsraptor · 30/01/2024 20:18

<sitting here, eagerly awaiting evidence of the Shane booting> 😁

Redshoeblueshoe · 30/01/2024 20:16

Sorry - I need to learn how to do screenshots, hopefully someone else will supply one

DerekFaker · 30/01/2024 20:06

Redshoeblueshoe · 30/01/2024 20:04

Scouts have tweeted Shane has been booted out.

Do you have a link or screenshot please?