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LoobiJee · 03/02/2024 10:11

TinselAngel · 03/02/2024 10:09

Jesus Christ, have you seen Janice Turner's article in The Times? 😱

There’s a thread on it @TinselAngel

TinselAngel · 03/02/2024 10:09

Jesus Christ, have you seen Janice Turner's article in The Times? 😱

Melroses · 02/02/2024 23:15

When I was sent down to the chemists for a pair of tights for my mum, she always said 'not American tan' 🤔

They were definitely naff by the end of 1975. I remember the girls all wearing grey for the school disco.

AlisonDonut · 02/02/2024 13:51

Ha ha - the college hairdressers all wore American Tan, it was part of the overall look.

Whereas the Goth and Punk girls wouldn't go near them.

The would have been goth and punks did start wearing them with Grunge Dresses in the 90s, with socks and DMs...the boys loved them when they wouldn't have gone anywhere near a college hairdresser [or the hairdressers wouldn't have gone for them more like]. They called it wearing American Tan Ironically. Not my words! I'd never go near them, it was black fishnets for me.

Datun · 02/02/2024 13:39

TinselAngel · 02/02/2024 12:25

Were you not allowed to wear them because you were pale or did they have connotations I'm not aware of?

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God, now I'm worried my mum was inadvertently signalling something!

Although, to be far, it was way before the 90s.

Minefield.

TinselAngel · 02/02/2024 12:25

Theyarehere · 02/02/2024 11:47

How do you “ironically” wear tights? I wasn’t allowed to wear American Tan because my mum said they weren’t for the likes of me. I had to wear nude and towards the back end of the 90’s I found opaque and grunge.

Were you not allowed to wear them because you were pale or did they have connotations I'm not aware of?

Theyarehere · 02/02/2024 11:48

I want to ironically wear tights now! 🤣

Theyarehere · 02/02/2024 11:47

How do you “ironically” wear tights? I wasn’t allowed to wear American Tan because my mum said they weren’t for the likes of me. I had to wear nude and towards the back end of the 90’s I found opaque and grunge.

AlisonDonut · 02/02/2024 11:30

American Tan was the 'go to' [I can't say fetish, more like..oh crap it was a fetish wasn't it] of many, many 90s lads. I had one friend who would only date women who 'ironically' wore 'American Tan' tights in the 90s. He would have been in his mid to late 20s at the time.

Mumoftwo1312 · 02/02/2024 09:54

It's successful because people are afraid of being accused of being "transphobic" due to their views. So they clutch at the idea "no I'm not transphobic, see, even some actual trans people agree with me" and this gives the likes of Hayton social capital and influence. I remember thinking like that myself and I once referred specifically to Hayton in a discussion with a "liberal" friend.

Now I'm a bit more accepting of being called transphobic, I suppose. I'm not going to try to defend myself any more from that

Ereshkigalangcleg · 02/02/2024 09:49

Yes, Amy has got their number.

Theyarehere · 02/02/2024 09:42

Absolutely Icake. The ultimate validation… GC women fawning over you.

IcakethereforeIam · 01/02/2024 20:03

Amy Hamm posted this which, I think, sums it up

Thank you: Debbie Hayton in the Mail
Datun · 31/01/2024 23:59

PriOn1 · 31/01/2024 23:10

Apart from anything else, any parent knows, trying to get a pair of tights on a five-year-old is difficult if you're an adult, much much less if they're trying to do themselves.

Datun, I fear you may have overestimated the knowledge of certain parents. It would certainly appear that Mr Hayton did not spend much time putting tights on his five year old daughters.

American tan? In Scotland we called them Aggie Broons…

Yes, it had occurred to me that he was operating on very little, er, lived experience.

Aggie Broons sound like the colour of oxtail soup.

American Tan was, iirc, just as awful as it sounds. My mum was never out of them.

Thank you: Debbie Hayton in the Mail
PriOn1 · 31/01/2024 23:10

Apart from anything else, any parent knows, trying to get a pair of tights on a five-year-old is difficult if you're an adult, much much less if they're trying to do themselves.

Datun, I fear you may have overestimated the knowledge of certain parents. It would certainly appear that Mr Hayton did not spend much time putting tights on his five year old daughters.

American tan? In Scotland we called them Aggie Broons…

CriticalCondition · 31/01/2024 19:47

Datun · 31/01/2024 19:35

To be fair, they could be American Tan. 😁

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It's the skin colour that's making me shudder, whether that's American Tan or British Pale Potato!

EmpressaurusOfTheScathingTinsel · 31/01/2024 19:47

RethinkingLife · 31/01/2024 19:38

I thought DH was fishing for a contract with the tights companies that have trans models

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Snag’s answer to Dylan Mulvaney?

RethinkingLife · 31/01/2024 19:38

Faffertea · 31/01/2024 13:31

Or because there’s more thrill in talking about tights and getting readers to think of you putting on tights?

I thought DH was fishing for a contract with the tights companies that have trans models

Datun · 31/01/2024 19:35

CriticalCondition · 31/01/2024 13:46

Sceptical as I am about aspects of this particular revelation and therefore inclined to analyse it, I'm finding I really don't want to think about it too much. The image of putting on someone else's discarded tights, which in the 60s/70s were most likely flesh-coloured, is rather too close to trying on someone else's skin for me to want to picture it.

To be fair, they could be American Tan. 😁

Datun · 31/01/2024 19:34

Morwenscapacioussleeves · 31/01/2024 18:55

Wasn't it Jenner that said he tried on his teenage daughter's clothes?
suggests to me that it's about more than easy access

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More violations? Forbidden things, humiliating things?

ArabellaScott · 31/01/2024 19:22

And of course sometimes people prefer the underwear to have been used.

EmpressaurusOfTheScathingTinsel · 31/01/2024 19:15
Grin
Morwenscapacioussleeves · 31/01/2024 19:08

Great minds @EmpressaurusOfTheScathingTinsel 😁

EmpressaurusOfTheScathingTinsel · 31/01/2024 18:58

I can imagine the stealing being part of the thrill. Like Jenner speaking publicly about the time his daughters caught him taking their clothes.

Edited to acknowledge that @Morwenscapacioussleeves said that first!

Morwenscapacioussleeves · 31/01/2024 18:55

TinselAngel · 31/01/2024 18:21

Now it's so easy to order things over the internet, I wonder if less stealing of sisters/ Mums/off neighbours washing lines, clothing goes on.

Wasn't it Jenner that said he tried on his teenage daughter's clothes?
suggests to me that it's about more than easy access