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Trans pedo treated too harshly for being trans

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Electricblankettime · 26/01/2024 00:01

There's alot to unpack here. He seems to be talking of being a nice person buy supporting other trans prisons...and appears to be in with another trans pedo isla bryson. It appears he is trusted enough to go to a special wing just a few months after being sentenced and destroying a child's life. It also looks like the wing may have been emptied just after decisions were made to not have transwomen in womens prisons....and the biologixal women held there had to shift over and make room for these brace and stunning pedeos womhttps://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/butcher-who-abducted-sexually-abused-31927864

Butcher who abducted and sexually abused girl wants ‘excessive’ sentence reduced

WARNING, DISTRESSING CONTENT: Andrew Miller, 53, abducted the primary-school aged girl and subjected her to repeated attacks which a judge described as “every parent’s worst nightmare”

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/butcher-who-abducted-sexually-abused-31927864

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Vebrithien · 26/01/2024 13:20

BombaySamphire · 26/01/2024 13:14

Are you sure? That seems insane.

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Completely sure. Nothing more needed to have the PC of gender reassignment than to say "I am a woman"

BombaySamphire · 26/01/2024 13:14

Propertylover · 26/01/2024 11:05

@MinnieCauldwell you do not have to have surgery to be covered by the PC.

All you need to do is be thinking about transitioning to be protected.

The vast majority of trans people do not take puberty blockers, cross sex hormones or have surgery.

Are you sure? That seems insane.

Delphin · 26/01/2024 13:12

It is against the law to discriminate against anyone because of:

  • age.
  • gender reassignment.
  • being married or in a civil partnership.
  • being pregnant or on maternity leave.
  • disability.
  • race including colour, nationality, ethnic or national origin.
  • religion or belief.
  • sex.
From : https://www.gov.uk/discrimination-your-rights

Gender reassignment = GRC, if I am not mistaken.

Discrimination: your rights

It is against the law to discriminate against anyone because of their sex, religion, disability or certain other personal characteristics ('protected characteristics')

https://www.gov.uk/discrimination-your-rights

Propertylover · 26/01/2024 11:05

@MinnieCauldwell you do not have to have surgery to be covered by the PC.

All you need to do is be thinking about transitioning to be protected.

The vast majority of trans people do not take puberty blockers, cross sex hormones or have surgery.

MinnieCauldwell · 26/01/2024 09:26

Propertylover · 26/01/2024 09:13

If I remember this case correctly he was given a harsher sentence because the judge said the victim only got in the car because she thought he was a woman. The victim knew not to get in a car with a man.

Legally it’s an interesting one because it involves deception - a man pretending to be a woman. Which is what the protected characteristic of gender reassignment allows.

This is a horrible case and I hope he loses, but he has the right to appeal.

I don't believe he has had the surgery, which is the protected characteristic. He is just self identifying as female, self id is not a protected characteristic, though you wouldn't know it.

Propertylover · 26/01/2024 09:13

If I remember this case correctly he was given a harsher sentence because the judge said the victim only got in the car because she thought he was a woman. The victim knew not to get in a car with a man.

Legally it’s an interesting one because it involves deception - a man pretending to be a woman. Which is what the protected characteristic of gender reassignment allows.

This is a horrible case and I hope he loses, but he has the right to appeal.

TheSandgroper · 26/01/2024 06:32

If he wins a reduction in his sentence, how much kudos would his barrister and solicitor win among their peers and how much would their fee scale change?

I understand that if they accept a brief, they must do as the client instructs but I just wondered. And at what point do they say to the client to just accept the ruling of the court?