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skilpadde · 26/01/2024 00:18

Gymnopedie · 25/01/2024 23:28

This is a quote from the Guardian article which surprised me:

Thomas, who was a moderate swimmer in the male category before transitioning,

By even acknowledging that fact could we begin to hope that the G is, if only by the tiniest smidge, beginning to soften its hardline TWAW stance?

No reflection of any general change of stance at the G.

Sean Ingle has always been a very grounded, matter-of-fact reporter when it comes to this issue. One of those old-school trustworthy journalists who doesn't have an angle to wrestle into every article.

inkjet · 26/01/2024 00:11

Grimchmas · 26/01/2024 00:02

“We did not give our consent; they did not ask for our consent,” Gaines told Fox News. “In that locker room, we turned around and there’s a 6ft 4in biological man dropping his pants and watching us undress, and we were exposed to male genitalia.

Come on TRAs, I'm genuinely curious how you will justify this.

I think Laurie Penny would say they were being rude for looking.

SabrinaThwaite · 26/01/2024 00:08

Gymnopedie · 25/01/2024 23:28

This is a quote from the Guardian article which surprised me:

Thomas, who was a moderate swimmer in the male category before transitioning,

By even acknowledging that fact could we begin to hope that the G is, if only by the tiniest smidge, beginning to soften its hardline TWAW stance?

Sean Ingle is not captured.

Bridges and his mother are not fond of Sean.

Grimchmas · 26/01/2024 00:02

“We did not give our consent; they did not ask for our consent,” Gaines told Fox News. “In that locker room, we turned around and there’s a 6ft 4in biological man dropping his pants and watching us undress, and we were exposed to male genitalia.

Come on TRAs, I'm genuinely curious how you will justify this.

LarkLane · 26/01/2024 00:00

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IcakethereforeIam · 25/01/2024 23:56

Tbf to Thomas he does make a good point

“They’re like, ‘We respect Lia as a woman, as a trans woman, whatever, we respect her identity; we just don’t think it’s fair’,” Thomas said on the ‘Dear Schuyler’ podcast.
“You can’t really have that sort of half support, where you’re like, ‘Oh, I respect her as a woman here, but not here’. They’re using the guise of feminism to sort of push transphobic beliefs.”

To which I can only answer, 'Well, I don't respect him as a woman anywhere. Why would I?' I don't think anyone truly does, not even Thomas himself. It's not a belief that mammals can't change sex, it's a biological fact.

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PriOn1 · 25/01/2024 23:45

Well done Sean Ingle!

However I must say that the Telegraph writer has a very poor grasp of punctuation. I mean look at this sentence. He has accidentally put the quotation marks around entirely the wrong words.

‘exposing other competitors to her “male genitalia”.’

Ah, what a blissful day it will be when we no longer have to read sentences including the (oxy)moronic words “her penis”.

IsabelleSE19 · 25/01/2024 23:33

Gymnopedie · 25/01/2024 23:28

This is a quote from the Guardian article which surprised me:

Thomas, who was a moderate swimmer in the male category before transitioning,

By even acknowledging that fact could we begin to hope that the G is, if only by the tiniest smidge, beginning to soften its hardline TWAW stance?

Sean Ingle has been pretty good on this - not sure if it's having any wider effect on the G but we can only hope! They have a TW reporter as well so that might make for a bit of an internal conflict...

Pudmyboy · 25/01/2024 23:30

Christ, what kind of mindset is it that says if you only knew how much I wanted this, you'd let me walk all over you.
Very succinct summary @Datun !

Gymnopedie · 25/01/2024 23:28

This is a quote from the Guardian article which surprised me:

Thomas, who was a moderate swimmer in the male category before transitioning,

By even acknowledging that fact could we begin to hope that the G is, if only by the tiniest smidge, beginning to soften its hardline TWAW stance?

Datun · 25/01/2024 23:13

She also told ESPN: “The biggest misconception, I think, is the reason I transitioned. People will say, ‘Oh, she just transitioned so she would have an advantage, so she could win’. I transitioned to be happy, to be true to myself.”

God, the fucking arrogance. No one gives a shiny shit why you 'transitioned'. Just stop cheating.

Christ, what kind of mindset is it that says if you only knew how much I wanted this, you'd let me walk all over you.

In that locker room, we turned around and there’s a 6ft 4in biological man dropping his pants and watching us undress, and we were exposed to male genitalia.

I suppose that's not a goal, either??

Arse.

Boiledbeetle · 25/01/2024 23:06

Having now read about it in two articles...

I've had enough of all this crap!

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Gymnopedie · 25/01/2024 22:59

Do you know what? I almost wish he would get to the Olympics. It has viewing figures in billions. Lia and the TRAs wouldn't know what had hit them when it was there for all to see on a world stage.

Obviously I don't believe for a minute that this person should be there, but if they think it will be good for their cause they would most certainly have another think coming afterwards.

Boiledbeetle · 25/01/2024 22:59

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midgetastic · 25/01/2024 22:56

In the guardian also I think

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