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Jo Phoenix in Woman’s Hour today (Tuesday)

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crumpet · 23/01/2024 09:54

There may already be a thread but I didn’t spot one. Wanted to flag this (rather unexpected!) interview.

Womans Hour starts at 10am

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ArabellaScott · 23/01/2024 17:02

WarriorN · 23/01/2024 16:58

x.com/suzanne_moore/status/1749736753517236253?s=46&t=A2fpFNgDRyXF2d6ye97wEA

Ooh, yes, get Suzanne on!

SinnerBoy · 23/01/2024 16:34

Niminy · Today 16:00

Sneak peak of tomorrow's Guardian:

😂

GlomOfNit · 23/01/2024 16:28

AlphariusOmegron · 23/01/2024 11:04

The more people who contact Woman's Hour and say well done and ask for more like this, Helen Joyce maybe - the better - https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/3xyZd5NjJZmN7WztP96vCG/contact-us This situation has come about because people were made to be afraid and hide their opinions, this is a chance to keep the ball rolling

Done!

WarriorN · 23/01/2024 16:25

The thing is I wouldn't put it past Zoe writing exactly that.

StephanieSuperpowers · 23/01/2024 16:14

It sounds like a typically thoughtful and informative read.

StephanieSuperpowers · 23/01/2024 14:58

I agree that violence shouldn't be linked to genitals - but it is. If those with male genitals could please stop doing violence it would be gr8 but they don't seem inclined, particularly.

OneMorePlant · 23/01/2024 14:45

On woman's hour there was a comment read out about some TRA stating that violence should not be linked to genitals.

I'm so tired of this stupidity. Depending on location 85-95% of all violent crimes are committed by men. If men would disappear overnight women would live in an utopia.

Sex matters.

Noshowlomo · 23/01/2024 14:38

It’s on instagram. The page is followed by a lot of high profile accounts and women. Good to see this is now being reported unashamedly

Jo Phoenix in Woman’s Hour today (Tuesday)
Oblomov23 · 23/01/2024 14:35

OU are in cloud cuckoo land if they think we all aren't disgusted and appalled. What planet are they on?

WarriorN · 23/01/2024 14:25

Professor Wootton at York uni, and a number of academics in the replies...

x.com/profwootton/status/1749574679637918123?s=46&t=A2fpFNgDRyXF2d6ye97wEA

I hope this judgement sends quakes through every academic institution

CuriousAlien · 23/01/2024 14:12

Mollyollydolly · 23/01/2024 13:55

Kathleen Stock's reaction to Zoe. She's so right.

That is a very interesting phrase: "a binary power grab". I suppose that's any fundamentalism really. But so incredibly ironic for an ideology that claims to disrupt binaries to be so determinedly binary by nature.
Drawing lines in the sand and judging by who is on one side or the other. Painting labels of whatever-phobia, heretic, unclean on people. I was wondering how many of the people doing this to Jo Phoenix were women. Enthusiastic allies paying their dues to some sort of God who will absolve them of sin and shame. Jo's story doesn't seem to help those who have already swallowed the pill but it might help inoculate others.

IcakethereforeIam · 23/01/2024 14:12

You're not wrong. I found this on her twiX. I'm pretty sure that's an Australian shepherd 😍.

https://x.com/zoesqwilliams/status/1245444865477001219?s=20

Although the dog, that might be a collie 😁

https://x.com/zoesqwilliams/status/1245444865477001219?s=20

StephanieSuperpowers · 23/01/2024 14:09

I haven't been able to listen to all of the interview with Prof. Phoenix yet, it's too upsetting so I've been listening in short chunks. But I do have to mentally leave it now and again. Poor woman, the pain in her voice is hard to hear. It's impossible to imagine how anyone could have listened to it and approached it from the angle that Zoe has, that by allowing Prof. Phoenix to tell her own story in her own words on a show about women's issues, trans people have somehow suffered an injustice or deprivation.

duc748 · 23/01/2024 14:03

When you thought your opinion of Zoe Williams couldn't get any lower...

She really is an appalling woman. I wonder if Jo will get on Newsnight or the like? The point made by a PP than the OU know there are more cases in the pipeline is significant, I think.

WarriorN · 23/01/2024 13:56

IcakethereforeIam · 23/01/2024 13:47

Has Helen Joyce done a SAR at the BBC to find out why she's apparently blacklisted?

Oh I don't know, that would be interesting.

Mollyollydolly · 23/01/2024 13:55

Kathleen Stock's reaction to Zoe. She's so right.

Jo Phoenix in Woman’s Hour today (Tuesday)
SinnerBoy · 23/01/2024 13:51

CrossPurposes · Today 12:12

Zoe Williams has an interesting take:

Ah! I've literally posted on her twitter, copied your post here and she's banned me already!

Poinsettiasarevile · 23/01/2024 13:50

Zoe Williams is so hard of thinking it is not true.

IcakethereforeIam · 23/01/2024 13:47

Has Helen Joyce done a SAR at the BBC to find out why she's apparently blacklisted?

StephanieSuperpowers · 23/01/2024 13:46

I suppose when you see such mindlessly stupid takes as dear old Zoe's, you have to wonder what the personal cost of not charging at this like a bull would be. These days, one just jumps to the conclusion that there's a child involved and the cost of not making a fool of yourself like with those tweets is too high.

Pigeon851 · 23/01/2024 13:36

Amazing interview - well done to Emma B for giving Jo the space to talk about what happened to her in such detail. And to Woman's Hour for not shying away from this.

And of course, triply well done to Jo Phoenix- I am in awe of how composed and articulate you were on there. Congrats on this amazing outcome.

🥂👏💐