Andrew Miller appeals their sentence

There was a long period of my life where I didn't have any kids,that doesn't make me childless.

AM has behaved in a disturbing manner since he was a teenager & has certainly caused harm in his local community. This culminated in his abhorrent abduction & abuse of his victim which will affect her all her life.

'Ms Dow claimed there were long periods of Miller's life where he did not cause any harm.

She added: "He is not a persistent offender."'

I read that as not exactly saying he had a clean record.

A previously clean sentence apparently! Which I would say was more indicative of policing cuts than a lack of criminal history!! You don't suddenly amass all that child porn and commit all the other offences all at the exact same time. He is clearly deprived and it's a miracle that he didn't murder the child.

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Terrifying individual. Who gives a flying fuck how “helpful” he’s been to any other inmates? I wouldn’t care if he stayed locked up for ever, to keep him away from children.

Social worker? No chance. Where I used to work you had to get an enhanced DBS check just to be able to do tech support for the social services computer system, let alone actually deal with service users. I'd hope the same would apply to support workers, but given the shoddy safeguarding processes of certain organisations, I'd not stake money on that.

Bet the BBC et al are all facing disciplinaries for gross misconduct for calling this lady a man in the press.

Hmmm…..can’t think why?

That'll be a nope, then.

It's now been unhidden

How on earth does the BBC get to describe this authentic trans person (lived as a woman for 6 years) as a man?! What could it possibly be about this predator that lets the BBC describe their sex accurately?

I did notice it but I'm trying to avoid getting stung for maintenance payments so I'm studiously ignoring it, Rum.

Sorry, not helpful, but I just wanted to highlight this comment as it made me laugh. @ArabellaScott not sure if you noticed it.

I want to be surprised and for the judge to not reduce the sentence but my overall feeling reading this is that I am sure Miller will get what he wants and it'll be another nail in the coffin for women's rights.

helping to support other transgender inmates in jail

Well that's not disturbing or creepy at all. I wonder what those 'other transgender inmates' are convicted of?

I bet he would. Think of all the opportunities. And this is why we have safeguarding.

That'll be a nope, then.

Past the link into archive dot ph and it will show six versions.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-65610429

<a class="break-all" href="https://archive.is/www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-65610429" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://archive.is/www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-65610429

That BBC page/report seems to have been updated and expanded several times.

The archive dot ph site has several versions. This is the earliest one archived:

'A man has admitted abducting a schoolgirl while dressed as a woman before sexually assaulting her at his home in the Scottish Borders.
Andrew Miller, who is also known as Amy George, offered to give the girl a lift home in February of this year.
The 53-year-old instead drove her to his own house, locked her in a bedroom and refused to let her leave.
He then subjected her to a series of sexual assaults over the course of a day.
The court was told that Miller is in the process of transitioning to female.'

I'll see if I can post the archive.

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4808653-man-abducted-and-sexually-assaulted-schoolgirl-while-dressed-as-woman

Yep.

I think they tried to avoid mentioning his trans identity at all at first. So he was just "man".

I don’t disagree, however reduction for a guilty plea is statutory. There are set amounts - 30% for pleading at the earliest opportunity, 10% for pleading on the day of trial and adjustments I made for pleas made in between. If it’s the case that a reduction hasn’t been applied, it likely will be as it would be in the case of any other person who is convicted of an offence.

Interesting the defendant is reported as a male who was dressed as a woman when they committed the offence. I didn’t follow the original case and am wondering if they were always reported as thus or if the case is now being presented this way on appeal.

He's all heart,too soft for his own good.

Behold my surprised face that he's somehow managed to turn traumatising and abusing a little girl into concern for the precious "trans community".

Lord Carloway seems sensible (if that Report is anything to go by). If he decreases the sentence because of AM 'trans' status then justice in Scotland is done for. When will we know, does anyone know ?