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Another GC employment tribunal. Roz Adams vs Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre #2

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nauticant · 19/01/2024 12:59

Claiming constructive dismissal for GC beliefs.

ERCC CEO is a well known transwoman know for controversial "reframe your trauma" remarks.

There was live tweeting from twitter.com/tribunaltweets or if Twitter doesn't show the tweets, look at https://nitter.net/tribunaltweets

Abbreviations:
J: Employment Judge McFatridge
RA: Roz Adams, the claimant
NC: Naomi Cunningham, barrister for the claimant
R or ERCC: the Respondent, Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre
DH: David Hay KC, barrister for the respondent
KM: Katy McTernan, ERCC Senior management
MR: Mairi Rosko, ERCC Board Member
MS: Miren Sagues, ERCC Board Member
KH: Katie Horburgh, ERCC Board Member
AB: ERCC staff member (name redacted)
NCi: Nico Ciubotariu, COO of ERCC
MW: Mridul Wadhwa, CEO of ERCC
BP: Beira's Place

Witnesses:
Nicole Jones (NJ): 18 January 2024
Mairi Rosko (MR): 19 January 2024
[more to follow]

Thread #1: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4985570-another-gc-employment-tribunal-adams-vs-edinburgh-rape-crsis

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JollyJanuary · 19/01/2024 13:18

Massive thank you for threads and info x

stealtheatingtunnocks · 19/01/2024 13:18

Their witness would need to seek advice. Like Roz did.

IANAL, but I’d that a gotcha?

Froodwithatowel · 19/01/2024 13:16

Somewhat like the admin error. She will consult a higher power on what she should say, and then say it.

Is the court clear yet on the clash between zealotry, actual reality and the impact on service users?

pronounsbundlebundle · 19/01/2024 13:14

Thanks for the new thread @nauticant

I was supposed to do some work / housework today. Ah well, this is more important. Maybe I'll login in / have a hoover while they lunch.

PurpleSparkledPixie · 19/01/2024 13:14

Froodwithatowel · 19/01/2024 13:05

Would 'need advice' on whether NB people have a biological sex.

Uhm...

< blinks >

Unicorn sex. That's what they have. (Ie non existent).

Boiledbeetle · 19/01/2024 13:13

I honestly think that whole NB line of questioning completely scuppered the witness. She basically at points agreed that the service users should know the truth I think, and that she would have to seek advice from higher up if an 'AMAB' non binary person was employed and the sex of worker question was asked.

pronounsbundlebundle · 19/01/2024 13:13

Froodwithatowel · 19/01/2024 13:05

Would 'need advice' on whether NB people have a biological sex.

Uhm...

Admitting ERCC is not fit for purpose if they can't even answer that question.

Signalbox · 19/01/2024 13:11

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LipbalmOrKnickers · 19/01/2024 13:11

Thanks for new thread @nauticant

Boiledbeetle · 19/01/2024 13:10

Lunch time until 2pm

apples24 · 19/01/2024 13:10

Thank you, will follow

Rainbowshit · 19/01/2024 13:08

Thanks @nauticant !

Froodwithatowel · 19/01/2024 13:05

Would 'need advice' on whether NB people have a biological sex.

Uhm...

nauticant · 19/01/2024 13:05

I've only mentioned 2 witnesses. Were there any more?

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pickledandpuzzled · 19/01/2024 13:04

Thank you

Chrysanthemum5 · 19/01/2024 13:03

Thanks @nauticant

Ereshkigalangcleg · 19/01/2024 13:02

Thank you!

Chrysanthemum5 · 19/01/2024 13:02

I think this witness is realising there is no good way out of this question - does a non-binary person have a biological sex?

lordloveadog · 19/01/2024 13:01

'are you aware that some people believe that being a woman is to do with your body? '

27Mankinis · 19/01/2024 13:00

Checking in. Thanks.