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Another GC employment tribunal. Roz Adams vs Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre #2

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nauticant · 19/01/2024 12:59

Claiming constructive dismissal for GC beliefs.

ERCC CEO is a well known transwoman know for controversial "reframe your trauma" remarks.

There was live tweeting from twitter.com/tribunaltweets or if Twitter doesn't show the tweets, look at https://nitter.net/tribunaltweets

Abbreviations:
J: Employment Judge McFatridge
RA: Roz Adams, the claimant
NC: Naomi Cunningham, barrister for the claimant
R or ERCC: the Respondent, Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre
DH: David Hay KC, barrister for the respondent
KM: Katy McTernan, ERCC Senior management
MR: Mairi Rosko, ERCC Board Member
MS: Miren Sagues, ERCC Board Member
KH: Katie Horburgh, ERCC Board Member
AB: ERCC staff member (name redacted)
NCi: Nico Ciubotariu, COO of ERCC
MW: Mridul Wadhwa, CEO of ERCC
BP: Beira's Place

Witnesses:
Nicole Jones (NJ): 18 January 2024
Mairi Rosko (MR): 19 January 2024
[more to follow]

Thread #1: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4985570-another-gc-employment-tribunal-adams-vs-edinburgh-rape-crsis

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Mmmnotsure · 22/01/2024 12:27

KT decided we wouldn't share info c anyone's biological sex as is sensitive info. Wouldn't want personal info shared by any staff c member of staff.

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nauticant · 22/01/2024 12:26

I thought she said that too.

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Boiledbeetle · 22/01/2024 12:26

Did she just say they don't employ men??

Datun · 22/01/2024 12:24

Appalonia · 22/01/2024 12:22

I wish they would define what ' non binary' actually meant!

Yes. I'd like to hear that read out, or at least an attempt by them to describe it.

Would be eye-opening.

LipbalmOrKnickers · 22/01/2024 12:24

60 observing today inc court.

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nauticant · 22/01/2024 12:24

Currently about 50 watching. Although the panel had to interrupt the witness to tell someone to mute their microphone, the observers are behaving well so far.

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LipbalmOrKnickers · 22/01/2024 12:23

AB (after non-binary pronouncement) 'could be employed as a woman under the exemption'

Mmmnotsure · 22/01/2024 12:22

DH One support worker called AB was a su within EAS team. AB indicated they considered themselves nb.

DH Were you aware of that at time

K Yes

DH what done re that in considering AB's caseload and allocation.

KT: considered and decided ok for AB to continue role but to let su s know being supported by a nb worker.

Appalonia · 22/01/2024 12:22

I wish they would define what ' non binary' actually meant!

Datun · 22/01/2024 12:22

Appalonia · 22/01/2024 12:20

Saying that clients can change counsellors of it doesn't work for them for any reason

Yeah, they're going down the route of no complaints so far, I bet.

Boiledbeetle · 22/01/2024 12:21

Talking about AB being non binary

Boiledbeetle · 22/01/2024 12:21

Talking about her interactions with Roz I think now (The cat is annoying the hell out of me, so i keep missing bits)

Appalonia · 22/01/2024 12:20

Saying that clients can change counsellors of it doesn't work for them for any reason

Mmmnotsure · 22/01/2024 12:19

DH:What input service user have into choice of support worker.

KMT Would take views into consideration. If unhappy with sw at any stage we'd reallocate sw

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 22/01/2024 12:18

I'm still Shock that MW was involved directly with service users.

Boiledbeetle · 22/01/2024 12:18

LipbalmOrKnickers · 22/01/2024 12:17

Was just thinking the same @Boiledbeetle. This Does Not Bode Well For Her.

Unless she's setting her stall out now so that she can just go "I just can't recall" later to NC

On about the choice of support worker now

Poinsettiasarevile · 22/01/2024 12:18

I am in!

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nauticant · 22/01/2024 12:17

As far as I'm aware this witness is Katy McTernan (KM). Not KT.

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LipbalmOrKnickers · 22/01/2024 12:17

Was just thinking the same @Boiledbeetle. This Does Not Bode Well For Her.

Appalonia · 22/01/2024 12:16

Witness has had a brain freeze!😂

Boiledbeetle · 22/01/2024 12:16

Poinsettiasarevile · 22/01/2024 12:13

I am still wftchtj

There is still two waiting in the lobby

Mmmnotsure · 22/01/2024 12:16

KT completely can't remember when opened up to new referrals.

Boiledbeetle · 22/01/2024 12:15

if she's being muddled when being questioned by her side she's going to fall apart when NC starts.

bumbledenbarsk · 22/01/2024 12:14

So, heavily over subscribed. Beggars belief they were not referring on to Beira's Place (as disclosed by previous witness last week).

ickky · 22/01/2024 12:14

Mmmnotsure · 22/01/2024 12:13

KT we had long waiting lists. Some people waiting six months for short support.

KT: waiting list for longer support was over a year.

It is shocking and pretty pointless to wait so long for any support.

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