Communication on new building - room available for 'chest feeding'

So, yes then. You're angry because it reminds you of related issues. This thing in itself isn't actually that bad.

I am am pretty angry, actually - because it’s symptomatic of the wider gender ideology, which is regressive, misogynistic, homophobic and genuinely harmful to women and young people (especially neurodiverse and gay young people, and those with mental health and trauma issues).

The entire movement is insidious, and I can’t believe that rational, forward-thinking (even just ‘thinking’) people go along with it.

I'm not angry. I just dont really care, Dadjoke. Sorry.

I'm in a breastfeeding Facebook group and there are members of it who are trans men/non-binary/have trauma relating to their breasts and don't like referring to them, and so they say they use the term chestfeeding for themselves. Other members of that Facebook group are very understanding about it in general. I imagine a room called breastfeeding/chestfeeding would be appreciated by them and make them feel included. The attitude from a lot of PP here seems to be that they should get over themselves and call it breastfeeding, but nobody else can dictate that. Why would you not want this group of people to feel included? Does it just make you angry even though it's actually a perfectly okay thing by itself, but it reminds you of other trans issues which make you feel angry? So this makes you angry too?

Yep, some men like to scold women and some men scold women because they like being scolded back.

Honestly, despite the misogyny, or more likely because of it, women are so important to some of these men.

It's depressing and surprising in equal measure how many of them are drawn to this board out of their voracious negativity.

Hm. It surely can't be imagined that a man coming on the feminist board and telling women off for how they feel is a useful tactic. It surely just provides an object lesson in misogyny and mansplaining.

Which means a different reason for posting. Perhaps some people just can't resist a chance to come and scold women. Who knows.

Do keep on keeping on, though, DadJoke, it's very instructive.

The term 'chestfeeding' is a symptom of a much wider and more pervasive issue. Discussing it in isolation isn't appropriate. It's all part of the push to mangle and mutate language to move forward an agenda which is not only crazy (it claims that humans can change sex, which we can't) but also dangerous to women (and to some men). Women lose opportunities and are at risk of physical harm due to this ideology. Just glance at other threads - jobs lost, sporting opportunities snatched away, women being injured and sexually assaulted.

And that is what makes us so bloody cross.

It's also just fucking rude to tell women what we're allowed to be outraged by.

'Moral panic' my arse.

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The pure dismissiveness of a man telling women off for discussing the harms to forcing language onto us that we don’t support and the lack of security that women now feel with males entering our spaces cannot be pointed out enough. The misogyny drips off such actions but it either doesn’t register, or that is the entire point of those kinds of posts.

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TRAs seem to have forgotten that they absolutely were trying to replace breastfeeding with chest feeding.

There was a point at which we were all supposed to be chest feeders.

Fortunately, since that was greeted with outrage and derision across-the-board, that goal seems to have been put on the back burner for the time being.

But TRAs like dad joke are still trying to push it by pretending it's only for transmen, and why can't we support them, given they're women. Which is a little bit of an outrageously bigoted admission there, but he probably considers it worthwhile in order to keep shoehorning the term in wherever possible.

Nah.

We're women, with breasts. The primary function of which is to be the sole sustenance for an infant.

And despite having breast tissue, men can't do it. Sorry boys.

I’d hate to be the doctor giving that diagnosis.

Maybe transmen get chest cancer instead. No, didn't think so.

For dadjoke, let's make this very simple. If you will never ever need to use a breastfeeding room because of well, biology, you don't get a say in what it is called.
Women who might one day or do or would have used the room for breastfeeding, do get to say what they find offensive in the name of the room. After all, this is a room to be used by women, regardless of how they view themselves.

Not men like you. You don't get to sanctimoniously tell women their feelings and experiences are a 'moral panic'

Btw, nice use of different words but meaning hysterical. Still misogynistic shit though

Accepting this language allows space for language which pretends men are women and that sort of lie infringes just about all women's rights.

If words don’t matter, and this is all unimportant moral panicking, then why do we even need to use the word ‘chestfeeding’? What’s so important about that word?

You will say - because it’s ‘inclusive’.

But how is it inclusive?

Nobody (as in literally) feeds from their chest.

Everybody (again, literally) feeds from their breast. Women, transmen,, and non-binary women (all of who are biological women, since they’re they’re the only ones who can lactate).

Surely the number of transmen who actually have given birth, still have their breasts, and choose to breastfeed their babies is a tiny number. This seems an incredible sledgehammer -nut scenario. If if if if if a breastfeeding transman does require/desire to use that room, I'm sure they'd be made welcome. Does it really require an offensive (to women) sign on the door, just in case?

'Moral panic' is another one of those phrases that is used to dismiss women's concerns and questions and feelings. We are not allowed to be straightforwardly angry or afforded the honour of being human beings with valid points of view worthy of consideration. We just rush around being 'hysterical' and 'panicking'. So our feelings can be diminished and dismissed.

Someone with a special identity can have heaven and earth moved not to upset their feelings and taking care not to offend them.

Women? We have to just shut up and move over.

There’s the irony. Men get breast cancer. That’s what they call it.

Those are the most Vice City figgy rolls I've ever seen.

Men have breasts.

Milk comes from breast tissue.

So whether or not the person identified as a man or woman they are breast feeding.

It wouldn't be...if this had anything to do with protecting women's rights??

Which of my rights are infringed when I use a breastfeeding room that has both the word breastfeeding and the word chestfeeding on it?

Protecting women's rights is not moral panic. what a nasty things to say.

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Did someone mention fig rolls?

We are all just a figment of Arabella's Uddingston! Bloody autocorrect! Imagination!! Even my tablet has been radicalized and has Tunnocks on the brain!

I'd not be altogether surprised if the entire board was just me talking to myself tbh. And then forgetting. I'd pinch myself to check but you can't on the app.