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New NHS children’s gender clinic hit by disagreements and resignations - Guardian

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DisappearingGirl · 18/01/2024 07:43

Guardian article

https://amp.theguardian.com/society/2024/jan/18/new-nhs-childrens-gender-clinic-hit-by-disagreements-and-resignations

"A string of resignations from a team preparing for the launch of the new NHS children’s gender clinic has further complicated plans to open the services in April."

"Disagreements over the text of a training module for medical recruits to the new gender service have prompted NHS England to remove the training materials project from a team at Great Ormond Street hospital and outsource it to the Academy of Medical Royal Colleges."

"Great Ormond Street is working with the Evelina children’s hospital and the South London and Maudsley NHS trust to pilot the first of several regional hubs that will take on the work previously conducted by the Tavistock clinic."

"Some clinicians working on the new training materials are understood to have felt it important to affirm a patient’s gender identity and believed patients could benefit from medication. Others, some of whom resigned their posts, stressed the need to adhere to Cass’s recommendations and take a holistic, “exploratory” approach."

New NHS children’s gender clinic hit by disagreements and resignations | NHS | The Guardian

At least four experts quit Great Ormond Street team after disputes over text of training module for recruits, sources say

https://amp.theguardian.com/society/2024/jan/18/new-nhs-childrens-gender-clinic-hit-by-disagreements-and-resignations

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borntobequiet · 18/01/2024 08:06

Though I know such disputes based on strongly help positions occur in every field, this example extreme belief-led factionalisation is more characteristic (on one side at least) of religion than science.

RedToothBrush · 18/01/2024 08:01

It sounds basically like one group wanted to ignore CASS and the other wanted to acknowledge it's findings. When the former wouldn't budge the latter quit - which is pretty much the pattern at the Tavistock with the responsible clinicians whistleblowing.

Also fascinating to see this position on a day when WHO will not be making any recommendations for trans identifying children & adolescents due to lack of evidence...

Which begs the question about why the hell the former group think social transition of children is good and just how ideologically driven they are.

There IS no evidence for transition of children and the lack of follow up from the Tavistock is definitely part of this lack of evidence.

Froodwithatowel · 18/01/2024 07:59

It is a similar situation to the one being unpacked in court in Edinburgh at the moment. A passionate genderologist sees anything but their view as heretic and sinful, and the purpose of their job is to enforce their belief system over and above anything else. Which includes the service users.

Neutrality is sin. Anything but slavish service of the belief system is sin. Non compliant policy is sin. To consider people's actual needs and rights is sin. To provide services to sinners is a sin. To tolerate colleagues not of the one true faith without trying to get rid of them is a sin.

Which unfortunately makes it increasingly obvious that someone committed to this belief system is rendering themselves unsuitable for a post in a public service where neutrality, impartiality, and serving the public (all of them) is the job requirement. And to run places like this is going to require making political neutrality a key part of the job description. Because more and more places are just descending into a group of this particular lobby creating havoc, and preventing anyone from doing anything useful, while stacking up employment tribunals.

Helleofabore · 18/01/2024 07:53

It is a mess. On one hand the executive team are aiming to get the training right this time. And on the other hand the waiting list is huge and children are at risk of going private where they will not receive exploratory care and therefore receive a low standard of care.

The training modules has to be developed as there must be none available to use and modify. However how is this going to work with people on the team who will only ever approve affirming only care? Meaning anything that might be exploratory might be rejected. There seems to be an issue in implementing Dr Cass’s recommendations.

BusyMummyWrites01 · 18/01/2024 07:47

Can’t make out whether it the pro-affirming or the pro-exploration clinicians who have resigned?

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