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Jameela Jamil on Woman's Hour (today 17/1) Reverse ferret ahoy?

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WinterTrees · 17/01/2024 11:01

I'm not here much lately and have removed myself entirely from Twitter/X so I'm not sure if I've missed something, but JJ was a guest on WH this morning - Emma Barnett interviewing - and the subject was JJ's 'new strategy for how she communicates on social media'.

She came across as moderate and reasonable, and confessed to posting aggressively, using controversy as media currency, being judgemental and condescending and jumping on the bandwagon of 'smackdown culture' ('popular on the left') and getting involved in issues that weren't her area of expertise. Also to deleting her twitter history. Notably, LGBTQ issues weren't specifically mentioned at all, but I wondered if she was on some sort of reputation salvaging mission now the Emperor's nakedness is getting harder to ignore (and his pink leggings have had a lot of front page PR.) She did claim to be using her platform to 'tell the truth', and EB pointed out that it was only her version of the truth, but that was about the closest they got to touching on issues. She is calling for greater tolerance for people admitting they were wrong.

Did anyone else hear it? Have I missed anything and am I being naive and overly optimistic to think she may have (ahem) 'educated herself'? (Probably if I returned to twitter I could get some answers myself, but I've deleted my account now and I don't think I can get back in!)

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Theyarehere · 17/01/2024 12:15

I remember around 18 months ago she was absolutely battered on X because she superiorly told people how to “stop being misgendered”. She was really dragged over the coals by the very people she was telling us all off about being vulnerable, she perhaps saw just how vulnerable they were. maybe that experience has given her pause for thought?

WinterTrees · 17/01/2024 12:01

Her life seems to contain an extraordinary amount of drama. The WH piece was about harassment outside abortion clinics and behold JJ reveals (to Emma Barnett's obvious surprise) the new dramatic detail of her visit to an abortion clinic ten years ago in which she was 'pelted with rosary beads' as she was 'carried' in. I was reminded of JJ's repeated and remarkably unlucky encounters with bees. Flying objects seem to be a thing.

I had the very same cynical thought.

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NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 17/01/2024 12:01

She once uploaded a collection of comical images of athletes (some were inadvertent optical illusions, some photoshopped) being very small and very tall, as part of an argument for males in women's sports.

Froodwithatowel · 17/01/2024 11:59

It is beyond depressing to see how many have no real thoughts or integrity of their own but just download whatever populist view is 'in'.

But yes, I suppose helpful that the 'pink leggings, you might have been suckered in' message is spreading.

CriticalCondition · 17/01/2024 11:56

I heard it. Nothing JJ said made me think she has 'educated herself'. Everything JJ said made me think she continues to take whatever position centres herself.

Her life seems to contain an extraordinary amount of drama. The WH piece was about harassment outside abortion clinics and behold JJ reveals (to Emma Barnett's obvious surprise) the new dramatic detail of her visit to an abortion clinic ten years ago in which she was 'pelted with rosary beads' as she was 'carried' in. I was reminded of JJ's repeated and remarkably unlucky encounters with bees. Flying objects seem to be a thing.

It's all about the position centre stage. If the tide is turning someone like JJ doesn't want to get left behind with her outdated 'truths'. So yeah, if she's changing her mind it's just another chapter in the big book of 'Look at MEEEE'.

NotBadConsidering · 17/01/2024 11:50

10 part Netflix doco series. Jameela Jamil stars in I Was Wrong About…

Episode 1: The Bees
Episode 2: Cancer (part 1)

and so on.

She may as well make some money out of it eh?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/01/2024 11:45

Also all the girls at her 90s school were on puberty blockers to stop their heavy periods, apparently Confused

HearTheSubGoBoom · 17/01/2024 11:28

Are we talking the same person who was chased by bees, twice, and got run over, twice, and had cancer, twice? I'm not sure she's the most honest witness as she can't even keep her own story straight.

teawamutu · 17/01/2024 11:25

Lottapianos · 17/01/2024 11:24

'She is calling for greater tolerance for people admitting they were wrong'

Hmmm , definitely sounds like reverse ferreting, or at least paving the way for that!

Will this be the next thing we have to fawn all over people for? Gold medals and parades for admitting you were wrong? 'Coming out' parties for being wrong? 🤦🏻‍♂️😂

JJ loves 'coming out'. That'd probably work beautifully.

Lottapianos · 17/01/2024 11:24

'She is calling for greater tolerance for people admitting they were wrong'

Hmmm , definitely sounds like reverse ferreting, or at least paving the way for that!

Will this be the next thing we have to fawn all over people for? Gold medals and parades for admitting you were wrong? 'Coming out' parties for being wrong? 🤦🏻‍♂️😂

teawamutu · 17/01/2024 11:20

I think that she's a talentless virtue-signaller BUT ALSO that in being so, she's a useful weathervane. So everyone's right and it's worth watching what she does next.

WinterTrees · 17/01/2024 11:17

I don't disagree with that, but I think she's also a useful weather sock, if you will. A good indicator of the way the prevailing populist winds are blowing.

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Faffertea · 17/01/2024 11:05

I turned it off when I heard her speaking. Jamie is a talentless grifter so it wouldn’t surprise me in the least to see her reverse ferret if the current of social media changes direction.

I have principles. But if you don’t like them I have others.

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