WHO will not be making any recommendations for trans identifying children & adolescents due to lack of evidence

Given they are meant to be a health organisation, the people on the group should all be impartial experts on evidence based medicine, and they should be steering well away from legislation and policy.

I strongly believe that they should include experts in women's rights in the development group, given that self-identification and the concept of 'gender-inclusive' have, in reality, meant undesirable consequences for the female sex (erasure of our language, erasure of the existence of female single-sex spaces, forced interpretation of 'woman' as a sexist stereotype rather than as a sex category etc.)

The world is still dealing with this issue as if only men, as sex class, had inalienable rights while the female sex class and its rights (where the latter even exist) are up for mining and reassignment and erasures.

Yes. That is a very inconvenient fact.

Suicide is also considerably higher post-‘transition’

I think there was a study released recently or just a paper about the impact on bodies with cross sex hormones. On either sex there is significant increase in stroke and heart attack. Obviously there are so many other issues that are often dismissed because there are very few patients with decades of use to investigate.

The bit about life expectancy is interesting. Is lower life expectancy explained by those who are on cross-sex hormones, or are there other factors at play?

Another one of the panel members

Fury over UN trans expert's X-rated Grindr and child 'genocide' posts https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-12973933/Outrage-hires-self-proclaimed-fa-t-trans-separatist-expert-health-panel-hardliner-posts-X-rated-Grindr-hookup-texts-extreme-views-child-trans-genocide.html?ito=native_share_article-nativemenubutton

That. ^^

It's rather reminiscent of the police and the Rothersthorpe issue.

'We could protect children - but difficult people would kick off and call us names, so we'll look the other way.'

That's a very good point. Rather than asking questions and perhaps contributing to better care for 'gender diverse' children, they just drop the whole fucking thing and swerve it.

To back you up on that I know someone who's partner was a participant in the 2016 Rio Paralympic Games. At the time this person was telling me that the organisers were actively discouraging family members of athletes from attending with the athletes because of Rio's high murder rates. They could just about keep the athletes safe, but because family members wouldn't be located in the athlete's secure accommodation, the organisers were worried that family members booking their own accommodation would be at too high a risk. This could have led to bad publicity for Rio should they be murdered. The person did not accompany their participating partner to Rio and was quite upset about it.

Perhaps the thinking is that this is best stayed, until a more amenable moment emerges for it

Makes me angry, the irresponsibility of just casually waving away the advice on child and youth, oh, there's not enough evidence so we won't include it. Why don't you include it and outright state it is dangerous to use these methods without evidence? Won't you withdraw other statements made on it? Challenge others who advocate for it? Naughty step governments who use such methods without evidence??

To me this is a child and young person health crisis, just like covid was a crisis. And they stood up there lecturing governments about what they should be doing every day whether it was evidence based or not. Imagine if they'd have said oh, we can't advise about that, sorry, no evidence.

Criminal negligence. Someone there is terrified of the TRAs.

From arabella's war and peace post:

2023: Evidence synthesis was initiated; the preliminary list and biographies of 14 proposed Guideline Development Group (GDG) members was published on the WHO website for public consultation; and an updated list of 21 proposed GDG members, with additions primarily of public health policy experts from Ministries of Health, was published for a further period of public consultation (extended until 2 February 2024). In December 2023, one member of the proposed GDG list asked to be removed due to scheduling conflicts.

So that explains the person whose name I've now forgotten no longer being on the list.

I wonder what the scheduling conflict is?

impoverished prostituted trans people in places like Brazil

This group is always given as an example of a male trans population who suffer violence. It ignores the very high level of violence there generally which means this group has a murder rate an order of magnitude lower than for other men there.

The late-transitioning or university-aged non-binary white British or American male does not share these risks and it's dishonest to lump them in with impoverished prostituted trans people in places like Brazil.

Neither do the thousands of traumatised/autistic/struggling with their sexual orientation teenage girls.

So considering legislation around gender ideology (how is that their remit?) and provision of services - but only having transactivists on their guideline group - absolutely no one representing other groups who may be impacted by such legislation and service provision.

Wow.

apologies for any quirks of formatting. Posting something as a PDF has the effect of making it an absolute pain in the arse to share/copy/paste. Funnily enough.

I'm going to C&P the whole FAQs, as it seems to me the WHO have put up a very bland statement and buried the pertinent responses/info in a pdf FAQ that has to be downloaded. It's available on the page I linked upthread, but here it is in full (standby for a wall of text):

Posted on 15 January 2024
Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)
WHO development of a guideline on the health of trans and gender diverse people
15 January 2024

1. Why is a technical guideline on the health of trans and gender diverse people needed?

• Trans and gender diverse people encounter specific challenges that negatively impact their access to quality health services, quality of life and life expectancy, violating their right to health and associated rights, such as the right to free, informed consent to medical interventions. This guideline has a specific focus on adults and will not address issues relating to children and adolescents.

• Trans and gender diverse people often face barriers to accessing health care services, including stigma and discrimination in health care settings. This can have serious impacts on their health. Many settings also lack policies to facilitate access to inclusive and gender affirming care. Trans and gender diverse people experience a high burden of mental health issues (including suicide) and often experience high levels of violence. Thus, there is an urgent need for the health sector to consider ways to provide more inclusive, acceptable and effective health care for trans and
gender diverse people.

• This proposed guideline is guided by WHO’s mandate to enable the attainment of the highest possible level of health and well-being for all.

• The guideline will reflect the principles of human rights, gender equality, universality and equity. It is aligned with and responds to WHO’s mandate to work for all people, the effort to reach the furthest behind first, and a commitment to leave no one behind. The guideline also contributes to ensuring universal health coverage (UHC).

• Additionally, the guideline aims to contribute to reaching the goals of the 2015 Joint Statement of 14 UN agencies, including WHO, pledging to protect all people from discrimination and violence on the grounds of gender identity and/or gender expression, as well as the 2017 United Nations Joint Statement committing to eliminate discrimination in healthcare settings, including discrimination based on gender identity and gender expression.

1. Why is this guideline needed now?

• The midterm review of the Sustainable Development Goal (SDG) agenda, including SDG 3 “Ensure healthy lives and promote well-being for all at all ages”, has brought renewed attention and commitment to the global goal of universal health coverage. • This proposed guideline builds on more than 10 years of WHO work on trans and gender diverse people’s health. This includes: o The International Statistical Classification of Diseases and Related Health Problems (ICD), which in its 11th edition included changes to reflect scientific understanding of sexualhealth, gender identity and gender incongruence. The ICD-11 was endorsed by WHO Member States in 2019 and published in January 2022. o Guidelines related to HIV, viral hepatis and sexually transmitted infections (STIs), which include good practice statements on the enabling environments that are essential to curb these epidemics among this disproportionately affected group of people. o Guidelines related to self-care interventions that recognize the importance of gender equality, rights in delivery of gender affirming care, and reducing discrimination. • There is an increasing body of scientific evidence highlighting the unmet health needs of trans and gender diverse persons, due to stigma, discrimination, violence, and other human rights violations, including in the health care settings. • Trans and gender diverse people are entitled to the full protection of their human rights, as specified in international human rights instruments. Human rights include, but are not limited to, the right to equal enjoyment of rights and non-discrimination; security of person and privacy; recognition and equality before the law; the right to the highest attainable standard of mental and physical health; education; employment and just and favourable conditions of employment; freedom of movement; peaceful assembly and association; freedom from arbitrary arrest and detention, and from cruel and inhumane treatment; and protection from violence. States have an obligation to ensure that the above rights are enjoyed without discrimination of any kind, including on grounds of race, language, national or social origin, political or other opinion, sex, age, religion, disability, marital status or other status. United Nations human rights treaty bodies have repeatedly held that sexual orientation, gender identity and sex characteristics are prohibited grounds of discrimination under international law. • Some countries have laws, regulations, policies and practices that present barriers to equal access to health care for trans and gender diverse people. A number of countries criminalize gender identity in a de facto manner, by criminalizing cross-dressing or impersonation of the opposite sex. For trans and gender diverse people, the lack of legal gender recognition is a key barrier to access to health services, in addition to the full enjoyment of other rights, such as freedom of movement, and right to adequate housing, education and employment. Harmful practices include forced anal examinations, which are used to investigate or punish alleged same-sex behaviour between consenting men or transgender women. These legal barriers have measurable, detrimental effects on the health of trans and gender diverse people, as shown by research.

1. What will the guideline cover?

• This guideline will review evidence of the impact of specific interventions and on that basis provide recommendations for enhancing the health of specifically, adult, trans and gender diverse people, , and their access and utilization of health services. • Interventions to be assessed include: o the provision of gender affirming care services for trans and gender diverse adults in a clinical setting; o health workers’ training and education approaches related to providing gender inclusive care for adults; o specific provisions of gender identity recognition laws, policies and administrative procedures that may affect the health and wellbeing of adult trans and gender diverse people; and o provisions of health policies aimed at facilitating gender inclusive health care for adults.

• The guidelines will also inform existing WHO recommendations that support health services and health workers in providing empathetic and evidence-based clinical care to trans and gender diverse people that addresses their needs, who experience interpersonal violence.

1. How was the scope decided?

• The scope was based on requests of some WHO Member States and on the outcomes of a stakeholder consultation held in 2022 with experts in transgender health and representatives from the affected communities from all WHO geographic regions. From the initial consultations, it was agreed that the scope should focus on adults and not on children/adolescents.

1. Why will the guideline only cover adults and not also children or adolescents?

• The scope will cover adults only and not address the needs of children and adolescents, because on review, the evidence base for children and adolescents is limited and variable regarding the longer-term outcomes of gender affirming care for children and adolescents.

1. What do we mean by ‘trans and gender diverse people’?

• “Trans and gender diverse people” is an umbrella term for those whose gender identity, roles or expression do not conform to the norms and expectations traditionally associated with the sex assigned to them at birth; it includes people who are transsexual, transgender, or otherwise gender nonconforming or gender incongruent. Transgender people may self-identify as transgender, female, male, trans woman or trans man, transsexual or one of many other gender nonconforming identities. They may express their genders in a variety of masculine, feminine and/or androgynous ways.

• See WHO’s frequently asked questions on health and sexual diversity for further information.

1. What are the definitions of gender affirming and gender inclusive care used in this guideline

process? • In line with the 11th edition of the WHO International Classification of Diseases and Related Health Problems (ICD-11), gender-affirming health care can include any single or combination of a number of social, psychological, behavioural or medical (including hormonal treatment or surgery) interventions designed to support and affirm an individual’s gender identity. Of note, these new technical guidelines on the health of trans and gender diverse people will not consider surgical interventions.

• Gender inclusive care refers to gender diverse people's inclusion in, and access to, all forms of health care, free of stigma and discrimination, facilitated by health policy, laws and/or health interventions.

1. What is the timeline for this process?

• 2021: Establishment of an internal WHO steering group and the contracting of the first of two independent and experienced guideline methodologists to impartially guide the process, including the formulation of recommendations.

• 2022: A stakeholder consultation (including with Member States) was conducted to define the scope of this guideline, which led to the identification of the three areas of focus: service delivery approaches, health workforce training, and health policy. A detailed proposal for the guideline was submitted and approved by the WHO Guideline Review Committee.

• 2023: Evidence synthesis was initiated; the preliminary list and biographies of 14 proposed Guideline Development Group (GDG) members was published on the WHO website for public consultation; and an updated list of 21 proposed GDG members, with additions primarily of public health policy experts from Ministries of Health, was published for a further period of public consultation (extended until 2 February 2024). In December 2023, one member of the proposed GDG list asked to be removed due to scheduling conflicts.

1. What are the criteria for selection of the GDG members?

• The standard criteria for the selection of technical experts for the GDG include (a) technical expertise in the subject matter as defined in the scope of the approved guidelines proposal; (b) geographic representation; (c) gender diversity; (d) representatives of people affected by the guidelines; and (e) end users (i.e., people who will use the guidelines such as health policy makers and health professionals).
• In the specific case of this guideline, the following profiles were considered for the members of the GDG:

o expertise in gender affirming health care, health workforce, violence response, mental health, law, public health policy, and human rights;
o geographic representation;
o gender diversity;
o trans and gender diverse individuals (as subject matter experts and/or as
representatives of those affected by the guidelines); and
o health policy-makers and health professionals working in the field of trans and gender diverse health (end users)

• All GDG members act in their own technical capacity and do not represent their affiliated organizations. Their work is unpaid.

10. How were the proposed GDG members selected for this guideline?
    • The selection was informed by both participants of the stakeholder consultation meeting held in early 2022 and by WHO technical staff, including those in Regional Offices.
    • The proposal for GDG composition has been approved by the WHO Guideline Review Committee.
    • The proposed GDG membership along with relevant biographies was announced for rounds of public notice and comment, in line with WHOs policy for managing conflicts of interest of external experts, in June and December 2023. Following a wide-ranging set of feedback, WHO is further extending the submission of feedback on the GDG membership until 2 February 2024. All
    comments should be sent to [email protected] by this deadline.

11. What are WHO normative guidelines?
    • WHO guidelines aim to support Member States in implementing evidence-based interventions to update health policies and achieve health outcomes for populations. They do not constitute binding commitments and Member States choose whether to apply and adapt them to their context.

12. What is the process for developing WHO guidelines?
    • The WHO guideline development strictly adheres to a robust and evidence-based process as detailed in the WHO handbook for guideline development and is overseen by an independent internal review Committee charged to ensure these processes are followed.

• The process includes the defining of the scope, the development of key research questions (using the PICO format), commissioning of systematic reviews of the literature by WHO looking at the impact of selected interventions on specific health outcomes and their risks and benefits.
The results of these reviews are summarized and assessed for certainty or quality of evidence and risk of bias, using established and internationally recognized ‘Grading of Recommendations Assessment, Development and Evaluation’ (GRADE) and the ‘Confidence in the Evidence from Reviews of Qualitative Research’ (GRADE-CERQual) methodologies; and a Guideline Development Group (GDG) of external experts is established.

• Standard criteria for the selection of technical experts for the GDG include (a) technicalexpertise in the subject matter that is defined in the scope of the approved guidelines proposal;
(b) geographic representation; (c) gender diversity; (d) representatives of people affected by the guidelines; and (e) end users (i.e., people who will use the guidelines, such as health policy-makers and health professionals). Biographies are then made public for feedback before the GDG is finalized.

• Once the GDG is established, it is presented with the summarized results of the reviews addressing each research question as well as with evidence related to:
o values and preferences of the users and beneficiaries of the recommendations;
o feasibility of implementation with a focus in low- and middle-income countries;
o economic implications (e.g. costs, cost-benefits, etc.); and
o human rights and ethical implications.
• The GDG is systematically guided through the evidence-to-decision process by an independent methodologist, and decisions regarding the recommendations are reached by consensus.
• Once the recommendations are finalised by the GDG, they are subject to further external expert peer review, and the full guideline is subsequently submitted for review and approval by the WHO Guideline Review Committee, following the process outlined in the WHO handbook for guideline development.
• The time to development of a guideline varies depending on the scope, availability and volume of evidence and resources, but can take between 6 months and two years. All guidelines are subject to external peer review for accuracy and implement-ability.
13. How are conflicts of interest of Guideline Development Group (GDG) members managed?
• Conflicts of interests are managed following standard WHO procedures, notably its Declarationof Interest (DOI) policy for external experts. According to this policy, members of WHO Guideline Development Groups are required to declare any (intellectual or financial) interest that might affect their objectivity and independence and/or create an unfair or competitive advantage. They are screened through a series of background checks performed by the WHO Secretariat, and through a period of public notice and comment.

• Any significant disclosed interest identified through these processes is reviewed by the Secretariat (including as appropriate, in consultation with the WHO Office of Compliance, Risk Management and Ethics) to determine if a conflict of interest exists, and what, if any measures (ranging from conditional participation, partial or full exclusion) are required.
WHO reserves the right to review the declaration of interests (DOIs) and if a new interest becomes apparent, WHO shall at all times manage that conflict of interest, including adjusting membership of a GDG.

legal recognition of self-determined gender identity for adults.

What is this doing as an area for WHO guidelines? Seems like overstepping a remit? Unless they mean to look at the health implications for society, which are not necessarily positive.

This new guideline will focus on 5 areas: provision of gender-affirming care, including hormones relating to adults; health worker education on and training for the provision of gender-inclusive care; provision of health care for trans and gender diverse people who have suffered interpersonal violence, based on their needs; health policies that support gender-inclusive care; and legal recognition of self-determined gender identity for adults.

The GDG members include researchers with relevant technical expertise; end-users (e.g. programme managers and health workers); and representatives of trans and gender diverse community organizations, among others.

This health care provision is bound to include using non-consenting women to validate their ‘gender’. How are WHO considering the impact on women, including healthcare providers?

❤ Reem Alsalem

Trans "stuff" has got lumped in with sexual health and women's health because prostituted people of both sexes are vulnerable to HIV, other STIs, drug addiction, and male violence from punters. A lot of trans people end up prostituted in the global South because of marginalisation or wanting to make a quicker buck to fund medical interventions. The common factor here is male violence and prostitution as the prostituted women in the same places have the same or worse health and welfare outcomes.

The late-transitioning or university-aged non-binary white British or American male does not share these risks and it's dishonest to lump them in with impoverished prostituted trans people in places like Brazil.

If find it odd that gender which to me is very much a disconnect between mind and perfectly healthy body issue got lumped in with purely medical considerations;
"Global HIV, Hepatitis and Sexually Transmitted Infections Programmes (HHS), and Sexual and Reproductive Health and Research (SRH)"

These subjects can be affected by behaioural changes, e.g. prevention is better than cure, use a condom etc.... but once prevention fails it always comes down to a medical condition. HIV, AIDS, STDs etc...
Similarly reproductive health. How to check your body for warning signs, women's sanitary needs, HPV innoculation, FGM. All of these can end up in medical conditions, but behaviour change and making resources available can all have a huge positive impact through prevention is better than cure.

And yet gender belief gets lumped in with that? If I remember correctly the consultaion email for gender feedback was something like hiv-aids@who .

Perhaps what the WHO is saying that where gender woowoo is concerned prevention is also better than cure? Maybe we should stop young people becoming infected with it?

The whole team were were activists