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JK Rowling called ‘Britain’s nastiest novelist’ in New Statesman

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IwantToRetire · 16/01/2024 01:26

After setting out the examples of nastiness in recent works including The Ink Black Heart and The Running Grave, he stated that Rowling has evolved “from saint-like Labour Party-supporting children’s author to polemical political activist, seemingly obsessive about the tabloid media, Scottish nationalism and, most provocatively for her millennial readers, gender-critical feminism”.

He claimed that she lacks “self-awareness” because she “condemns vicious keyboard warriors and hysterical reactionaries in her books but engages in similar behaviour herself online”.

“In another world, JK Rowling could be a character in a book by Robert Galbraith: brittle, insecure, cruel.”

Following the backlash, the New Statesman appeared to alter the original headline to “JK Rowling, Britain’s Gloriously Nasty Novelist”.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/01/15/jk-rowling-called-britains-nastiest-novelist-new-statesman/

I dont think it is a surprise that some male writer would say this. The question is why would the New Statesman want to publish it?

Article behind paywall but can be read at https://archive.ph/LJMFL

JK Rowling called ‘Britain’s nastiest novelist’ in New Statesman review condemned as misogynistic

The article argued that the author has become a ‘polemicist’ and ‘liberal pariah’ because of her views on gender

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/01/15/jk-rowling-called-britains-nastiest-novelist-new-statesman

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ADoggyDogWorld · 16/01/2024 14:55

Being childish is wrong now is it, cos I had my 'you are a poo poo head' insult at the ready?

Brefugee · 16/01/2024 14:38

JustSpeculation · 16/01/2024 14:15

She is and she does and I love it! It's called joining in.

links?

yourhairiswinterfire · 16/01/2024 14:36

I'm just scrolling her Twitter feed now, I'm up to last year.

Some examples so far of her 'dogpiling', or in normal speak, responding to people @ ing her:

-A screenshot of some dafty calling her an ugly nazi.

-She quote tweeted screenshots of a lovely fella who tweeted about her 'JKR better have a food taster the rest of her life. Fucking cunt thinks she can just keep escalating these hateful fucking attacks, just wait and see what happens. Bitch better hope her house is safe. A lot of things can happen that look like accidents'. And from the same fella 'when is this fucking cunt going to die already? Somebody needs to poison this cunt already'. All that was because JKR said it's abuse to force women to call their rapists 'she' and pretend he's a woman in court. (And that charmer's profile pic is that of a 50yo+ looking man Prawn, definitely not a teenager.)

-Responded to someone who was laughing at a 60 year old woman being punched in the head by a man.

-She called a prick a prick (Tom whathisface who likes protesting and intimidating women attending women's conferences to discuss MVAWG. He's also not a teenager).

-Quote tweeted a man (again, looks like he's in his 60s, not a teenager) who said rape isn't a big deal and 'making rape THE big scary thing is a feminist tool for levering more government support for victimhood'.

Stuff like that you mean, Prawn? What should she do, just tut quietly as unhinged men threaten to kill her, as they bully rape victims and defend rapists, as they dismiss violence against women and actually incite it? She's not seeking most of these people out, they're tweeting at her and she's tweeting back, which is how Twitter works.

Methinks it's not the 'dogpiling' that's the issue, it's her pointing out the violence and misogyny of the 'right side of history' fellas that irks, isn't it? Because, 'the worst thing about male violence is that it makes men look bad'.

MandyMotherOfBrian · 16/01/2024 14:28

Come on Prawn, linky link please….

GailBlancheViola · 16/01/2024 14:27

SinnerBoy · 16/01/2024 13:40

PrawnLiberationFront · Today 13:38

Only if your definition of "abuse" and "slander" is so broad it includes "anyone who doesn't wholeheartedly agree with me".

Threats of assault, rape and murder aren't "not agreeing wholeheartedly" with another person.

Have you got any tweets to show the sort of thing you meant?

Pull up a comfy chair, get in supplies of drinks and snacks I fear you will be waiting a very long time for the answer to this question you have now asked three times. You would think those throwing out such accusations would have the evidence at their fingertips, but alas not.

How about you buck the trend @PrawnLiberationFront and actually provide some evidence of your claims? It would be such a refreshing change.

pronounsbundlebundle · 16/01/2024 14:24

I also am hoping that Jane Marple decides that Nick does not deserve her beautifully made socks and can source his own bloody socks from now on. She decides to sell them at the village fete instead and donate the proceeds to crowdfunders for women who've been bullied out of their jobs for daring to state that scientific reality sometimes matters more than a man's personal inner self image.

LenaLamont · 16/01/2024 14:24

PrawnLiberationFront · 16/01/2024 13:12

She is downright childish on twitter and regularly bullies and dogpiles much smaller accounts. She also brags about how much money she has which is a bad look on anyone.

She's wry and funny about the outrageous nonsense directed towards her.

I remember her retweeting some idiot threatening to "burn my copies of Harry Potter" with a comment like "Please do, every copy burned make £10 disappear from my bank account."

She laughs at some of the nonsense and is quick to defend herself against public slander/libel. That's not bullying.

JustSpeculation · 16/01/2024 14:15

PrawnLiberationFront · 16/01/2024 13:12

She is downright childish on twitter and regularly bullies and dogpiles much smaller accounts. She also brags about how much money she has which is a bad look on anyone.

She is and she does and I love it! It's called joining in.

IcakethereforeIam · 16/01/2024 14:04

pronounsbundlebundle · 16/01/2024 13:51

You CANNOT leave us hanging, what happens next?!! Will Nick overstep in his unhappiness that a woman has opinions of her own, get fired and replaced by the better qualified yet inexplicably less well paid female journalist who is willing to evidence her claims in articles? And will Miss Marple successfully hide the weedkiller?

The knitting needles! She forgot the knitting needles! <tenterhooks>

Brefugee · 16/01/2024 13:55

PrawnLiberationFront · 16/01/2024 13:12

She is downright childish on twitter and regularly bullies and dogpiles much smaller accounts. She also brags about how much money she has which is a bad look on anyone.

oh that seems nasty, do you have any links?

Nestofwalnuts · 16/01/2024 13:54

Proclaimed by Nick Hilton, podcaster, who no one has ever heard of.

There's nothing a male nonentity hates more than a successful, renowned woman. He's probably just shouting rude words so mummy will pay attention to him. Thing is, however exciting this little media spat is for him now, she will be remembered forever, as a phenomenal author, a brilliant humanitarian and a brave defender of women's rights in the face of indefensible threat, defamation, slander, libel and cruelty. He, on the other hand, will be forgotten in 10 minutes and he knows it, which is why his little foot is stamping too hard.

ErrolTheDragon · 16/01/2024 13:53

She's certainly guilty of winning battles of wit with unarmed opponents.

RapidOnsetGenderCritic · 16/01/2024 13:52

PrawnLiberationFront · 16/01/2024 13:12

She is downright childish on twitter and regularly bullies and dogpiles much smaller accounts. She also brags about how much money she has which is a bad look on anyone.

This is a criticism I’ve heard before, though very surprisingly with no actual examples provided, so perhaps it’s a standard TRA attack tactic. The purpose seems to be to portray JKR as a bad person, but for me it fails in that purpose because no-one I know is 100% pure and perfect. If the worst that can be said about someone is that they have some wrong opinions and that they sometimes state them in a way that can be interpreted as mean, it seems to me that they are probably have a place among the nicer half of the population.

pronounsbundlebundle · 16/01/2024 13:51

viques · 16/01/2024 10:58

Miss Marple counted the stitches for the second time. Really, she mused to herself, she had surely knitted enough argyle socks for her godson Nick - the minor columnist and would be polymath - over the years to have more confidence in her ability to successfully turn a heel. But poor Nick, for all his earlier promise , was ,as he approached middle age, turning out to be a tetchy and snippy man , all too quick to criticise and fuss, especially, Miss Marple had observed, if the object of his criticism was a woman. So it behove her, for the sake of a more pleasant atmosphere, to ensure that socks knitted for Nick were as comfortable on his sensitive feet as she could make them. The weekend ahead was going to be a tricky one, without uncomfortable socks added to the mix.

It was not often that Jane Marple entertained in her own home, she no longer employed enough staff to deal with both cooking and cleaning to her own high standards (although fortunately she had instructed Maria, her cleaner, in the art of hospital corners ) and the local gastro pub was most obliging in providing delicious meals that only needed to be reheated in the microwave and decanted into the beautiful dinner service Jane had inherited from her dear mother. She was however, beginning to wonder if the combination of Nick staying for the weekend, and a dinner party planned for the Saturday evening where the guest of honour was a woman Miss Marple had long admired both for her literary skills and extraordinary humanitarian work, was actually ,on second thoughts, a good idea.

She chided herself for such a ridiculous thought, instead she should be looking forward to hosting and enjoying a civilised lively debate around her dinner table.

But just to be on the safe side she would make sure the good steak knives, the peen hammer, the box of rat poison, the decorative swords her father had been gifted by an eastern potentate, the fireside poker and her best letter opener were all safely locked away in the garden shed along with the now illegal weed killer she had so wisely bulk bought before the EU had banned it.

Jane Marple was a wise woman, well versed in the vagaries of human nature.

(inspired by a poster upthread who is also planning their own murder mystery!

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You CANNOT leave us hanging, what happens next?!! Will Nick overstep in his unhappiness that a woman has opinions of her own, get fired and replaced by the better qualified yet inexplicably less well paid female journalist who is willing to evidence her claims in articles? And will Miss Marple successfully hide the weedkiller?

pronounsbundlebundle · 16/01/2024 13:45

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/01/2024 13:26

She is downright childish on twitter and regularly bullies and dogpiles much smaller accounts.

I've never seen her quote tweet a smaller account negatively that didn't post something abusive or slander her. Why should she be silent in the face of threats and personal abuse?

Because women aren't allowed to stand up for themselves and should be seen and not heard?

Brefugee · 16/01/2024 13:42

duc748 · 16/01/2024 10:50

I can't get angry with the NS for this; should it only be pieces I agree with get printed? The review stands or falls on its own merits. I'm sure it'll be all over the letters page next week.

If they write similar hit pieces regularly, fine. Just bringing this out of left field (disclamer: I think the Strike books are badly written, but i know many people love them) is bonkers.

But that isn't the main point here. As pp said: it is his inability to defend what he wrote, to show his working, to show us the tweet she liked (and so fucking what? i have liked tweets by my MP before, on one topic, in all other respects i loathe her) and after a few hours of pushback he... deleted his twitter account? As the Germans would say: he takes warm showers

SinnerBoy · 16/01/2024 13:40

PrawnLiberationFront · Today 13:38

Only if your definition of "abuse" and "slander" is so broad it includes "anyone who doesn't wholeheartedly agree with me".

Threats of assault, rape and murder aren't "not agreeing wholeheartedly" with another person.

Have you got any tweets to show the sort of thing you meant?

Igneococcus · 16/01/2024 13:39

And you'd come off equally classless and tacky no doubt. Especially if you were arguing with a teenager on twitter, which Rowling inexplicably seems to spend a great deal of time doing.

Are those grapes especially sour today @PrawnLiberationFront

PrawnLiberationFront · 16/01/2024 13:38

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/01/2024 13:26

She is downright childish on twitter and regularly bullies and dogpiles much smaller accounts.

I've never seen her quote tweet a smaller account negatively that didn't post something abusive or slander her. Why should she be silent in the face of threats and personal abuse?

Only if your definition of "abuse" and "slander" is so broad it includes "anyone who doesn't wholeheartedly agree with me".

JFDIYOLO · 16/01/2024 13:38

Good. I can't tweet about the subject but ohhhhh I wish I had her strength

Brefugee · 16/01/2024 13:35

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/01/2024 01:38

The guy deactivated his Twitter account and deleted a goady tweet he made promoting his article due to the amount of pushback he received.

What a wimp! JKR receives awfully detailed rape and death threats, and yet she manages not to be a crybaby and delete twitter.

He got some rightful pushback for being a nasty cunt, and can't take it. boo bloody hoo

IcakethereforeIam · 16/01/2024 13:33

SinnerBoy · 16/01/2024 13:19

Apropos of nothing - my daughter's new soup mug:

😍 want one!

duc748 · 16/01/2024 13:31

So true.

DomPom47 · 16/01/2024 13:29

Love her writing and love her supportive views.
Those who criticise her never have anything solid to say and always seem to make it personal and angry.

GailBlancheViola · 16/01/2024 13:28

PrawnLiberationFront · 16/01/2024 13:12

She is downright childish on twitter and regularly bullies and dogpiles much smaller accounts. She also brags about how much money she has which is a bad look on anyone.

She is downright childish on twitter and regularly bullies and dogpiles much smaller accounts.

Especially if you were arguing with a teenager on twitter, which Rowling inexplicably seems to spend a great deal of time doing.

The ones sending her death, rape and sexual abuse threats perchance?