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JK Rowling called ‘Britain’s nastiest novelist’ in New Statesman

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IwantToRetire · 16/01/2024 01:26

After setting out the examples of nastiness in recent works including The Ink Black Heart and The Running Grave, he stated that Rowling has evolved “from saint-like Labour Party-supporting children’s author to polemical political activist, seemingly obsessive about the tabloid media, Scottish nationalism and, most provocatively for her millennial readers, gender-critical feminism”.

He claimed that she lacks “self-awareness” because she “condemns vicious keyboard warriors and hysterical reactionaries in her books but engages in similar behaviour herself online”.

“In another world, JK Rowling could be a character in a book by Robert Galbraith: brittle, insecure, cruel.”

Following the backlash, the New Statesman appeared to alter the original headline to “JK Rowling, Britain’s Gloriously Nasty Novelist”.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/01/15/jk-rowling-called-britains-nastiest-novelist-new-statesman/

I dont think it is a surprise that some male writer would say this. The question is why would the New Statesman want to publish it?

Article behind paywall but can be read at https://archive.ph/LJMFL

JK Rowling called ‘Britain’s nastiest novelist’ in New Statesman review condemned as misogynistic

The article argued that the author has become a ‘polemicist’ and ‘liberal pariah’ because of her views on gender

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/01/15/jk-rowling-called-britains-nastiest-novelist-new-statesman

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567839Y · 07/03/2024 09:44

Delphinium20 · 16/01/2024 02:41

"Nasty woman" is straight out of Donald Trump's playbook. Not a very original insult, is it?

😂 Indeed. Imagine a brain power competition

Hillary and JKR vs Trump and Willoughby?

Would be a sight to behold..
🤔🤔🤔😂

JanesLittleGirl · 17/01/2024 19:14

My guess is that PLF was just taking advantage of an unexpected snow day.

IcakethereforeIam · 17/01/2024 19:12

I just assumed 'prawns' was a euphemism for something small, pink and wrinkly.

Boiledbeetle · 17/01/2024 19:05

Idles away the time, whilst we wait, wondering what exactly the prawns are being liberated from

MandyMotherOfBrian · 17/01/2024 10:55

Haven’t checked since yesterday, so did the decapod not return with their swathes of evidence and links? Awww. Gutted.

CantDealwithChristmas · 17/01/2024 10:40

If the journalist had wanted to call out female writers for writing 'unladylike' crime novels, there are so many more fitting targets he could have gone after. Mo Hayder and Martina Cole books both absolutely revel in gore and in gruesome scenes and descriptions. Galbraith is far more moderate and prioritises excellent plotting and characterisation over cheap thrills.

I am a big reader of thrillers and cheap gore has its place if that's what one is looking for. There are loads of sub-genres in crime and thriller, you can choose whatever you want. And since gory scenes have existed in western literature since the Iliad (someone decapitates a Trojan and plays football with the head) and the Odyssey (gruesome depiction of the blinding of the Cyclops, complete with 'sizzling' eyeball fluid), then women have just as much freedom to write and read it as do men.

Oh but I forgot, JKR is an evil terf who makes life 'unsafe' for vulnerable trans people who never have to open or even go near a book of hers if they don't want to. It must be very traumatic for them.

CeciledeVolangesdeNouveau · 17/01/2024 10:33

I actually had a mild argument with my dad the other day over whether JKR was a transphobe. He’s (obviously) much older than I am, liberal (he is Guardian-level, I’m XR level on climate change and human rights but moderately GC in some respects), degree in law and normally we can drag out a slightly trumped-up fight about eg use of language in a newspaper for up to an hour because we like to debate. But we had a conversation where I said those two particularly controversial tweets weren’t transphobic. He just snapped back that they were and when pressed said I knew why and don’t pretend I don’t. No evidence he had read the tweets, no argument, just “they were transphobic”. This is someone who can usually pull one of his over 4000 books off the shelf.
I think the JKR hatred is a version of something like Orwell’s Two Minutes’ Hate. Hate is directed at someone for not much reason to promote unity and motivate the population.

SinnerBoy · 17/01/2024 10:30

Well, I suppose PLF has about eleventy billion tweets to read through, so it may take some time.

SidewaysOtter · 17/01/2024 10:23

Come on @PrawnLiberationFront, we’re all waiting for proof of your statements. You usually have so much to say, so why the sudden silence?

SinnerBoy · 17/01/2024 10:15

asked for goodness sake!

SinnerBoy · 17/01/2024 10:04

GailBlancheViola · Yesterday 14:27

You would think those throwing out such accusations would have the evidence at their fingertips, but alas not.

I know, isn't it strange? It's almost as if they just make it up as they go along, exaggerate hugely, or twist her words. I mean, I'm sure that TRAs would never do such a thing, it's simply that when they're aske for actual evidence, they were taking the cat to the vet or something.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/01/2024 10:01

Maybe they think it is invisible like Harry's cloak. Just because you can't see it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

That's why they don't like it when she calls them out, with their "much smaller accounts". My heart bleeds.

Boiledbeetle · 17/01/2024 10:01

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/01/2024 09:44

Fantastic from Brendan O'Neill, he really does strip it to the bone.

They truly believe that fighting for the right of a bloke to get his knob out in the women’s changing rooms is the new civil-rights issue. And that anyone who thinks women shouldn’t have to look at a knob unless they want to is a horrible bigot. They have no idea how deranged they sound to the rest of us.

What is really ‘brittle, insecure and cruel’ is the noisy trans lobby and its influential allies. These people will melt into a puddle of self-pity and tinny angst if you so much as ‘misgender’ them. They will arrogantly demand access to every women-only space and denounce as a TERF / witch any woman who stands in their way. I’d call that brittle. I’d call that cruel. The sins you people see in Rowling’s behaviour are really your own. It’s time you all grew up, hard as that might be. Wizards aren’t real, women are, and JK Rowling owes you precisely nothing.

Had just copied the same bit! So I won't paste it again, but he really does just say it how it is doesn't he!

Nestofwalnuts · 17/01/2024 09:54

And the funny thing is, @GailBlancheViola , they never ask us for proof of the misogyny because you barely have to scroll an inch to find some autogynophilic loon threatening to cut off JKR's head, kidnap her child, rape her with their big girl penis etc. And yet her literal violence seems so discreet it's almost...not there? Maybe they think it is invisible like Harry's cloak. Just because you can't see it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. But the difference between reality and fantasy is clearly increasingly hard for some brains to parse.

IcakethereforeIam · 17/01/2024 09:52

8/13 too and I wish I hadn't read some of those excerpts (oddly, not the JKR ones).

Victoria Smith in the Critic

https://thecritic.co.uk/j-k-rowling-is-honest-not-nasty/

This line resonated

For most women, male violence isn’t constant drama. It isn’t falling from balconies in Mayfair, or being stabbed to death in graveyards. It’s a low background noise, always there.

J.K. Rowling is honest, not “nasty” | Victoria Smith | The Critic Magazine

Can you imagine “a Britain populated by paedophiles, domestic abusers, rapists and terrorists”? That, according to the New Statesman’s Nick Hilton, is the Britain of J.K. Rowling’s Robert Galbraith…

https://thecritic.co.uk/j-k-rowling-is-honest-not-nasty

Nestofwalnuts · 17/01/2024 09:50

GailBlancheViola · 16/01/2024 16:56

Apparently Nestofwalnuts it is on us to find evidence of that poster's assertions, they shouldn't be asked to do that kind of work. Make of that what you will.

Par for the course with Gender Ideologues though, make a claim and then when asked for evidence to back up that claim - tumbleweed.

Always tumbleweed. Every single time. I used to ask for evidence of JKR's transphobic tweets. Never ever been shown one. Ever. DS1 has swallowed the JKR-evil kool-aid and one day I intend to sit him down and scroll right through the fecking lot, looking for proof.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/01/2024 09:44

Fantastic from Brendan O'Neill, he really does strip it to the bone.

They truly believe that fighting for the right of a bloke to get his knob out in the women’s changing rooms is the new civil-rights issue. And that anyone who thinks women shouldn’t have to look at a knob unless they want to is a horrible bigot. They have no idea how deranged they sound to the rest of us.

What is really ‘brittle, insecure and cruel’ is the noisy trans lobby and its influential allies. These people will melt into a puddle of self-pity and tinny angst if you so much as ‘misgender’ them. They will arrogantly demand access to every women-only space and denounce as a TERF / witch any woman who stands in their way. I’d call that brittle. I’d call that cruel. The sins you people see in Rowling’s behaviour are really your own. It’s time you all grew up, hard as that might be. Wizards aren’t real, women are, and JK Rowling owes you precisely nothing.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/01/2024 09:39

I got 8/13. Mid table respectability!

ErrolTheDragon · 17/01/2024 09:17

I wasn't at all sure who in @viques story was liable to be thinking of murdering whom - not just a whodunnit but a whowasitdunto.Grin (my money is on Miss M dispatching her tedious nephew but having to make it look undetectably accidental as her guest being an ethical soul would have had to dob her in if she'd suspected.)

CeciledeVolangesdeNouveau · 17/01/2024 01:51

Jellycats4life · 16/01/2024 22:55

I’m autistic too and frequently confuse people when my dry sense of humour gets a bit too dry and people don’t realise that I’m joking 😅

Lol. My particular brand of humour and general favourite kind is silliness. I bet you and I in a room together would be studiously avoiding each others’ eyes while you cracked jokes and they flew over my head and I just talked about the fish on the horse’s head “floundering”.
Also that response (the previous one, not a fish and horse random situation) reminds me of the time when I was about twenty, went to uni and my social skills dramatically improved. However I then developed a tendency to tell people very proudly. So I’d be like oh oh pick me! Your recent comment was passive aggressive because I read it in this book! I’m really proud of myself!
Needless to say I didn’t increase my popularity. Also one of the reasons I got so much better at interactions at that time was that I joined a very tight-knit society with whom I spent a lot of time (not the bullingdon club lol) and they worked out in about ten minutes that I could probably fly more easily than detect sarcasm so they had a system involving a little hand gesture when someone was being sarcastic (unless it would be more funny to hear a wide-eyed REALLY?).

Jellycats4life · 16/01/2024 22:55

CeciledeVolangesdeNouveau · 16/01/2024 20:02

Thanks for being generous in response. I’m often slower on the uptake with sarcasm/irony due to being autistic (and probably a bit due to being stupid).

I’m autistic too and frequently confuse people when my dry sense of humour gets a bit too dry and people don’t realise that I’m joking 😅

hellsBells246 · 16/01/2024 22:36

PrawnLiberationFront · 16/01/2024 13:12

She is downright childish on twitter and regularly bullies and dogpiles much smaller accounts. She also brags about how much money she has which is a bad look on anyone.

Bollocks. JK is measured, considered, witty, wry and humorous on Twitter. Brava!

JanesLittleGirl · 16/01/2024 20:28

IcakethereforeIam · 16/01/2024 19:19

Julie B in the Telegraph

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/01/16/jk-rowling-nastiest-novelist-row-trans-activists/

https://archive.ph/salq7

Lots on here will be very familiar with the things mentioned in the article, but a few more Telegraph readers might get....a yen to climb a mountain.

The only Telegraph readers who are not already peaked are the ones who only read the racing pages.