Labour Students attack on Rosie and Tonia has escalated

According to the Museum of Jewish Heritage, the Nazi German government brutally targeted the trans community, deporting many trans people to concentration camps and wiping out vibrant community structures.[6] This area of research is underdeveloped and the number of transgender victims is unknown.

Thing is, it isn't unknown. They kept records.

Germany (like every western nation at the time) had a law against cross dressing. It was less strict than most countries (the UK for example). All the prosecutions under it by the Nazis came with other charges (almost always homosexuality).

There is huge amounts of evidence that cross dressing was widely tolerated. An image search will come up with loads of contempary photos of Nazis in dresses- it was more common and more accepted than any allied country.

*the Nazi German government brutally targeted the trans community, deporting many trans people to concentration camps and wiping out vibrant community structures.[6]

This area of research is underdeveloped and the number of transgender victims is unknown*

Those two statements contradict each other. And where were these 'vibrant community structures'?

(Apols if anyone has answered, currently reading the thread).

@MotherEarthisaTerf rumour is the 'skin flute' was played in a local park with someone that was not in their bubble.
A. Constituent quote.

‘scoldbot’ 🤣

Hey you could call Mishy a content free wastrel scoldbot (I couldn't possibly comment) but never a claptrap.

Gah. Fat fingers.

Ageist claptrap

the what debacle??

À Geist claotrap. Be better

I’m not sure we should be dismissing the impact of student societies on the thinking of students more widely as well as the thinking or position espoused by the university. It is relatively easy to influence young people (I see it all the time in my workplace) and the influence of GI is significant and profound.

This is compounded by no longer teaching or emphasising critical thinking or the importance of debate and multiple perspectives or the need for evidence anymore. It’s all about student experience and ‘values’ and good capitalists

Yeah makes sense. My uni son hasn't even got round to registering for a GP yet and makes me send him his repeat prescriptions so I doubt he's going to be bothering to put himself on the electoral register at halls anytime soon. He is on it at our address, because I added him, but would have to do a postal vote I guess if its next May. I really don't think him or his mates will bother voting tbh and I think you're right, deluded teenagers that actually bother to vote are a pretty tiny proportion of the electorate.

Students can be dual registered and choose which of the two to vote in for national elections.

Students don’t always bother to register or to vote tho and those who do vote are more likely to do it wherever they are at the time, so the timing of the election can be somewhat relevant:

https://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/voting-and-elections/who-can-vote/students

according to this, based on 2019 GE, the older the residents of a constituency, the higher the turn out:

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/general-election-2019-turnout/

The students aren’t nearly as important as they believe they are.

Absolutely!

Labour need to disaffiliate from Labour students, bunch of nasty little
authoritarian bullies.

I see a tervish candidate is standing for Labour next week at a Hackney Council by election. Fingers crossed she’s elected, that’ll make the authoritarian student bullies howl.

Don't most uni students stay registered at their home address and vote at home? Do they really go on the electoral register at uni when they're only there for 3/4 years in large numbers? I'm not even sure how you would when your address changes every year surely it would be difficult to be on the register at the right place when an election came round?

Foolish and bullying kids need to be dealt with strongly by the Labour leadership, and I say that as a Labour Party member.

Arguably, the people of Canterbury (the actual, permanent population) having their democratic views distorted by whatever is fashionable among students in any particular year isn’t very helpful.

If Labour and Duffield want to win in Canterbury, maybe convincing the non-student population is the key thing.

The witch hunt against Duffield is dreadful (and really shows how absolutely hypocritical and superficial the ‘we stand for inclusivity unless we don’t like you’ crowd are). But if Duffield can’t gain electoral support in her constituency beyond the student population, that’s just how these things go. 🤷🏻‍♀️

Oh bless Mishy! You actually think most students don’t grow up out of their daft student politics and look back on it and cringe? Here, have this for your bedroom wall.

I doubt that anyone really cares what student societies think tbh.

Student groups misconstruing things and adopting a very extreme position so they can show and have a big tantrum is hardly new.

The problem is that in the 21st century the weird cult of ‘the young = progress’ promoted by social media means that it gets more attention than it previously would have. The storm in the tea cup gets blown out of all proportion.

They're busy saving the world,no time for that studying nonsense.

Twitler Youth,I've heard!

Of no real consequence

Hmm, not sure about that. Said this before, but Rosie Duffield only won the Canterbury seat after a huge and, anecdotally, aggressive mobilisation of the student vote. She won’t get that anymore. If, by some miracle, she does win it will indicate a massive swing to the left in that constituency - not completely impossible I suppose, given the shit show the Tories preside over now, but the loss of the support of the Uni votes are not inconsequential to her.

I believe it goes by Butler Youth these days.

I'm sure we've all seen the famous cache of photos of cross dressing senior Nazis. (I'm guessing that's what Glinner was referring to in the original tweet.) Izzard certainly wouldn't have been unsafe on that score, so it's all rather confusing. I was hoping that Mishy could enlighten us!

Yeah, I posted that on the other thread. Compared to the standards of the time the Nazis were very accomodating of transvestites.

I have hope for the younger generation and I think gender identity is loosing its grip but still so much damage has been done