Zoe Williams -

I searched for this but may have missed if anyone screenshotted this splendid riposte to ZW re: need for more Woman's Hour invitations to trans + ally guests.

https://twitter.com/blablafishcakes/status/1750102590564466909

https://twitter.com/zoesqwilliams/status/1750301076161487178

And she continues, this time being horrible to Sharron Davies. Has Zoe ever actually campaigned for anything? She complains about GC women and how mean we all are but has ever actually campaigned for trans rights? Beyond whinging about women in a column. I don’t think she’d do as Sharron has done and risked her income for a cause she cares about.

That's interesting, my post is now displayed....

I think their fingers must be so firmly plugged in their ears that the tips have touched.

Yes, definitely. Unfortunately it means they end up churning out things that don’t make sense thereby compromising any journalistic integrity they may have once had 🤷‍♀️

I know - she's a similar age to me. I used to marvel at her lack of logical thought processes when we were both younger too!

She's 50.

I interpreted it as “I hate other women, so fuck them and their gender-based rights”, but I suspect that isn’t how she intended it to land.

And all that happened because Jo dares to think women literally exist as a sex class and that men aren’t women. Which most people think and is backed up by the evidence, and is kind of core to the whole concept of a programme called Woman’s Hour.

However, I really, really do hope WH take Zoe up on it and invite her to discuss the topic with Jo, or Helen Joyce, or Kathleen Stock, or any leading GC feminist. Because I would bet my house she doesn’t have the first clue why she thinks what she thinks or any logical or evidence-based defence of her viewpoint. It’s just fake accusations of “waaaaa, you hate the poor marginalised trans people” instead of listening to the arguments. Many of which are agreed on by a number of trans people.

'Uncritical airtime to GC's'. 'Balance'.

Jo was on to talk about her experience and the judgment. She suffered direct discrimination, harassment, constructive unfair dismissal, wrongful dismissal, post employment victimisation and post employment harassment.

And Zoe is sulking that no one was invited on to criticise Jo?! Is she for real?

What does she want, Jolyon Kimono on to pretend that Jo lost? The people who made her life a misery invited on, for 'balance', to explain how bullying, harassment, discrimination, wrongful dismissal and post employment victimisation is a good thing?

As for Monty. Also ought to listen to WH to hear the gobsmacking extent to which it has literally been about TW for years. They made Caitlin Jenner their top woman of the year at one point!

I think you’re probably right and part of her desperation to appear cool is to try and cover up her privilege. There’s not a chance a working class journalist would getaway with being so mediocre

ZW isn’t even that young, and is pretty traditionally educated, so I don’t know why she is so devoid of critical thinking ability but it’s not new. I have been getting riled by her total non-sequiturs and logic fails and wrong-end-of-stick grabbing for decades - since I used to actually buy the guardian, and that was ages ago.

Her woman’s hour trans tweet is funny in how it belies that this is really about her, not trans people. Me, give airtime to me, so I can show pure I am in my allyship! Or maybe she does actually realise that WH has interviewed a lot more TW than GC women, so saying trans people would make no sense (but that amount of thought wouldn’t be typical).

She makes Caitlin Moran look like Andrea Dworkin. Does she really buy this ridiculous line that being opposed to gender stereotypes and wanting to defend women’s and homosexual rights is all motivated by hating trans people for the sake of it? Why would it be? It’s such a shallow playground concept and accusation.

Genuinely think that if Woman's Hour is going to give this much uncritical airtime to GCs, then for balance the BBC should have a Trans Ally hour

Does she never watch the BBC or something? She seems to be unfamiliar with their programming.

Also “for balance” if she’s going to use “GCs” then shouldn’t she also use “TRAs”?

Christ she's embarrassing. Scrabbling for relevance.

Oh Zoe. Zoe Zoe Zoe 🤦🏻‍♂️

Expert grovelling and all but do you not realize that NOTHING will ever be enough for these people?

What happened to ZW? Where did her brain go?

f g - Fawn & Grovel?

Not one of Aardmans better productions...

Oh my f g

In which Zoe demonstrated not just the expected cringing servitude, but that she knows fine well TWAM (by not including them in the original Ally Hour suggestion).

An apology was, as expected, forthcoming

ARSE. Not whatever body part you had in mind!

Looks like I'm 4 hours too late!

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