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Rachel Meade - it's a win!

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BreadInCaptivity · 09/01/2024 12:35

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Tinysoxxx · 09/01/2024 14:21

I amn’t going to say this again, please no more mentions! (Swishes cloak)

SinnerBoy · 09/01/2024 14:20

Karensalright · Today 14:11

RMW been on here????

On numerous occasions and them really, really doesn't like being put in they's place with facts and logical arguments.

Definitelyrandom · 09/01/2024 14:20

An excellent win and a very useful judgment.

Although it wasn't addressed in the judgment, I do worry about misgendering and the circumstances in which that might not be protected, notwithstanding that there is a belief that pronouns should apply to sex and not to gender. The judgment does talk about beliefs which cause "an inappropriate level of offence" (whatever that might be) and there is a reference in para 185 of the judgment to the respondents' counsel arguing "that the right to manifest those beliefs was not an automatic shield from any liability, for example, the harassment of a trans person through misgendering them".

IcakethereforeIam · 09/01/2024 14:19

He showed up from time to time, then flounced with a remark about cauldrons. Mentioning 'bundles' three times in succession is believed to cause a remanisfestation. He confirmed he doesn't have a grc in a previous visit. Bet this still gets zapped though.

Karensalright · 09/01/2024 14:11

RMW been on here????

BreadInCaptivity · 09/01/2024 14:08

DerekFaker · 09/01/2024 14:04

I'm sure Robin Moira White will be along any minute to tell us how it isn't REALLY a win.

Good luck to RMW trying to spin that.

The judgement is absolutely damning.

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PronounssheRa · 09/01/2024 14:08

Such good news, but it makes me furious just how much money women have to spend to get protection in law confirmed and shit like this challenged.

That won't stop me contributing, I will do again and again, but God its pisses me off.

Hopefully the more organisations start to lose the less this will happen.

LadySylviaMcCordle · 09/01/2024 14:06

DerekFaker · 09/01/2024 14:04

I'm sure Robin Moira White will be along any minute to tell us how it isn't REALLY a win.

Please don't Beetlejuice that individual to the thread. 😫

DerekFaker · 09/01/2024 14:04

I'm sure Robin Moira White will be along any minute to tell us how it isn't REALLY a win.

Menstrualcycledisplayteam · 09/01/2024 14:04

The complainant was actually Aedan Wolton, now a DEI lead at Sport England - a transman. Worrying really when you consider the implications for women's sport.

EasternStandard · 09/01/2024 14:00

IcakethereforeIam · 09/01/2024 13:54

This should crossover with the recent school guidance.

Good point

This should help in schools too, for any employer and regulator really

Dhamaneedsanewjob · 09/01/2024 13:58

As a social worker I’m thrilled by this result

bellinisurge · 09/01/2024 13:57

So brilliant. A teeny tiny part of me wants to shout "Shove that up your arse, you wankers". But I hope this helps lots of women. And children.

IcakethereforeIam · 09/01/2024 13:54

This should crossover with the recent school guidance.

musicalfrog · 09/01/2024 13:51

I look forward to hearing what Stonewall have to say about this.

Also hope to goodness the effects are felt throughout the public sector, healthcare, education etc. We should all feel a little freer to express our views in plain sight.

Well done Rachel, what a warrior she is!

Ofcourseshecan · 09/01/2024 13:48

Excellent news. Well done, Rachel and your team. The finding is very clear and useful.

ArabellaScott · 09/01/2024 13:48

Me, too, mare. Every court win helps us inch back to sanity.

SinnerBoy · 09/01/2024 13:47

Theinnocenteyeballsinthesky · Today 12:43

Bloody brilliant!! I do hope Billy Bragg has seen it too

It is excellent, but an absolutely inexcusable bloody tragedy that she's had to wade though all that shit for so long. I hope that any compensation takes into account the highly damaging stress she's been under, from being subject to this absolutely malicious, abusive process.

In other news, there was ice on deck, when I got up for shift at 10 last night. Tragically, Billy isn't onboard and even more tragically, was unable to slip on it and break his tweeting thumbs.

menopausalmare · 09/01/2024 13:47

This has cheered me right up!

EasternStandard · 09/01/2024 13:43

ArabellaScott · 09/01/2024 13:27

'Ms Meade’s solicitor, Shazia Khan, Founding Partner of Cole Khan Solicitors said:

“This is a landmark victory for common sense and free speech in the culture war on gender issues. The Tribunal found that my client was subjected to sustained and prolonged harassment by her employer Westminster City Council and her Regulator Social Work England for merely expressing her gender critical beliefs. This judgment sounds an alarm for all regulators — and all employers of regulated professionals — that they must not let their processes be weaponised by activists bent on silencing the debate on freedom of speech on gender. We demand apologies from Westminster City Council and Social Work England who have to date failed to acknowledge and accept their breaches of the Equality Act 2010 and the harrowing impact of their actions upon my client. We now call for urgent root and branch reform from the top down of both organisations to mitigate against further unlawful discrimination of employees and registrants”.'

(my bold)

Fantastic, Rachel and team. So very well done, and thank you.

Bloody brilliant

This is a battle that ultimately ends in courts and this win is fantastic

Thank you to Rachel

catduckgoose · 09/01/2024 13:41

Sorry I linked the wrong one, this is about the costs of the tribunal from last July.

LeSlogo · 09/01/2024 13:40

Brilliant news! 👏

EasternStandard · 09/01/2024 13:40

This is utterly brilliant, from the press release

‘This is a landmark decision. It is the first time a Regulator and an Employer have together been found to have been liable for discrimination relating to gender critical beliefs.’

I hope she gets a huge payout

GailBlancheViola · 09/01/2024 13:39

That is a very damning judgement for SWE and WCC, rightly so.

Congratulations and sincere thanks Rachel for going through this the toll it must have taken on you cannot be overstated.

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