Rachel Meade - it's a win!

Aw, a wee Buttergasp. It's been ages. Bloody love that clip.

Swishy flounce....

tbh, I should probably take a class in how to do that without sweeping all my papers off my desk (and probably a tea mug or two).

If the story is covered on the BBC website

For both the flounce and the BBC's lack of Rachel Meade coverage, is it sufficient if I try for a Buttergasp in response? We'll be waiting for some time (Arabella, we'll need more chairs, thermoses, knee blankets and sandwiches) if we're hoping that Woman's Hour are pounding on her door for an interview.

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The Guardian's article is currently the ninth most-viewed on the whole site, despite being IMO hard to find without having a direct link. I thought Terfs were just three bots in a trenchcoat, but people are very interested in this story!

If the story is covered on the BBC website, I'm buggered if I can find it.

Also agree. Just as with Rachel Meade's case, the problem is not the malicious complainant trying to get her sacked - the problem is the institutional capture, the regulators, the professionals who are discriminating.

With children identifying with trans the problem is not them or their feelings, it's the adults/institutions/ideology that is letting them down and offering poorly evidenced 'treatment' and advice.

Mentioned the outcome to a friend who was a social worker and it currently not working - makes her seriously re consider ever going back. She was appalled by the whole thing.

"Incompetent spurious bullies"

That jumped out at me too, @AmaryllisNightAndDay. Two colleagues suspended for, presumably, not snitching on Rachel for what she wrote on her personal FB page.

I'd very much like to know if they are still suspended (surely not?), or how long they were suspended for, terms of their reinstatement etc.

This is a truly totalitarian movement.

Bloody hell

Reminds me of a regime - not sure what you can say anymore

I know. And that was only just due to Maya Forstater

It could be, as many continually push for, a crime

That's such a good choice of photo!

It’s from a comedy where someone made up their own yoga poses, one of them was the Sideways Otter. It tickled me

Wonderful news. Congratulations Rachel and your team.
I wonder if there is a way to tally up all the money that following Stonewall's advice has cost various organisations in court?
Mentioning legal wins to HR departments might be easily brushed aside,as they may have the attitude of ' we aren't like that,so that will never happen to us' But if one could prove that since xxxx date, following Stonewall's advice has cost British organisations £xxxxxx in damages/ court fees/ compensation,it may concentrate the mind wonderfully.

The label anti-trans activist didn’t come up as a header for Wikipedia though. It came up as header for hiyamaya. Just wondered if that’s how she described herself if it’s her website? Seems a bit odd if so.

The "anti-trans" label, and everything else in that box, including the link to Maya's own website, is an extract from the Wikipedia page: it's not from hiyamaya.net, it just includes that link.

I'm glad I don't live in Westminster, they may be liable for a big chunk of council tax payer's money, aside from their legal fees.

No its where you go foe compensation for any misdeeds of your employer and now any professional regulatory body. The tribunal have set another date for the compensation judgement.

Surely now someone will name-change to VocalHateMovement?

Haha, that description is hilarious - it basically boils down to 'waaaaah, you're all big meanies'..
The level of delusion is staggering, just because they shoehorn in a lot of big words, doesn't mean it makes any sense.

Okay thanks. My misunderstanding of the employment tribunal process. Thought it was more an exoneration thing. Hopefully the reparations are considerable and more than lost salary.

Thats what she has done by taking it to a tribunal

Could Rachel sue SWE for harassment?

The Tribunal concluded that the disciplinary process Rachel was subject to constituted harassment.

The label anti-trans activist didn’t come up as a header for Wikipedia though. It came up as header for hiyamaya. Just wondered if that’s how she described herself if it’s her website? Seems a bit odd if so.

WarriorN

I've not heard of Rationalwiki before, so I looked up TERF and found the following:

A trans-exclusionary radical feminist (TERF; alternatively trans-exclusionary reactionary feminist, also trans women exclusionary feminist or TWEF)[note 1] is a member of a fringe but sadly loud and vocal hate movement within feminism, in which the vast majority of members never actually advocate for women's rights but instead, obsessively promote transphobia, especially transmisogyny, often through a range of conspiracy theories and denialism,[note 2] in addition to hostility to the third wave of feminism, while falsely claiming this is all for the benefit of cisgender women.

Well, that's it! You're all dead to me.

Swishy flounce....

there are a great deal of professionals at high levels who truly believe and cannot understand the opposite argument at all. That "This is a Tory right wing idea, get Labour in and all will be ok." Of course, some have their own trans family members, and that's going to be very hard indeed.

I found this week's polite letter to the WHO (not the band, who were much more fun) from Reem Asalem interesting in the repeated mention of 'conflict of interest'. It need repeating and enforcing. Certainly we could not at this point have a leader for example of a political party that had such a conflict of interest going on for them.

Does that mean there will be two more employment tribunals related to this? Or perhaps those individual’s lawyers will be waiting to see the outcome of this and then be in an excellent position for negotiation. WCC have really shot themselves in both feet with this haven’t they?

It is eventually going to have to involve support from Prevent and work related to deprogramming.

The de programming is going to have to be huge.

I was v encouraged by a discussion in a well known podcast facegroup recently - mainly that the owners of the podcast allowed a range of comments to stand and refused to delete comments that would probably go 'poof' here. But then there was a #bekind trans celebratory post which had 100s of likes, and many of those women are professionals.

I recognised a couple as psychologists who were acquaintances. That may be that people didn't feel they could like or comment on the other posts, but at the same time, it's clear there are a great deal of professionals at high levels who truly believe and cannot understand the opposite argument at all. That "This is a Tory right wing idea, get Labour in and all will be ok." Of course, some have their own trans family members, and that's going to be very hard indeed.