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Lib Dem's wondering where their members went

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mumsandaunties · 08/01/2024 19:35

I just got this email from the membership officer of our local Lib Dem party.

I’ve been looking at our membership data for the last 4 year, and I’ve noticed a steady decline in our membership, and I understand that you were all once members during that time, but have since lapsed, or resigned.

You will all have different, perfectly good reasons for lapsing your memberships, but I’ve been asked by the Exec committee to understand what the main reasons are.

Hmm...what could it be causing people to leave? It's a head scratcher for sure.

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MrsOvertonsWindow · 09/01/2024 11:46

Chersfrozenface · 09/01/2024 11:22

"Whilst she admitted it there was clearly no case to be answered."

I'm having trouble understanding that sentence.

Meh. Remember we're now in clown land where words mean what we want them to mean - not what they actually are.

NotBadConsidering · 09/01/2024 11:22

She is no moron

“I see someone in their soul and their person. I don’t really care if they have a male body.”

Only morons believe in gendered souls.

Chersfrozenface · 09/01/2024 11:22

"Whilst she admitted it there was clearly no case to be answered."

I'm having trouble understanding that sentence.

Tallerandtall · 09/01/2024 11:08

@1dayatatime

How rude you are.
She is no moron.
Also case dropped.
Whilst she admitted it there was clearly no case to be answered.

borntobequiet · 09/01/2024 10:30

I left, explaining why. Of course, I kept getting emails, to which I replied, explaining why I left and asking them to remove my name from their mailing list. After about three years I stopped getting emails.
I told my local party too, and got a load of patronising TWAW bollocks in return.

1dayatatime · 09/01/2024 10:13

Tallerandtall · 09/01/2024 09:45

@mumsandaunties

its super simple

  1. choosing Ed Davey over LMoran as leader.
  2. no shouting for a rejoin the EU vote.

Jeez if Layla Moron (charged with domestic violence) ever got to be LibDem leader and they started backing Brexit or at least stopped being in favour of Remain then there really would be no hope and no point in the LibDems.

Chersfrozenface · 09/01/2024 10:05

AsexualHealing · 09/01/2024 09:56

Good point. Anyone know more about GDPR?

I don't know whether this page from the ICO is at all enlightening.

https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/uk-gdpr-guidance-and-resources/lawful-basis/special-category-data/what-are-the-conditions-for-processing/

(I'm not sure as I've had very little sleep and am no firing on all cylinders at the moment.)

AsexualHealing · 09/01/2024 09:56

Saisong · 08/01/2024 22:15

If you left the party how come they are still emailing you? Isn't it a GDPR breach or something - they have no legitimate reason to keep your information?

Good point. Anyone know more about GDPR?

dolorsit · 09/01/2024 09:48

Not a Lib Dem voter but my friend was a member. Up until the Ed, women can have a penis statement.

We'd never really discussed the issue but friend was so outraged I was treated to a rather spectacular rant without the preliminary testing of the water.

Tallerandtall · 09/01/2024 09:45

@mumsandaunties

its super simple

  1. choosing Ed Davey over LMoran as leader.
  2. no shouting for a rejoin the EU vote.
Rightsraptor · 09/01/2024 09:24

Lynn, Baroness Featherstone (I think I got her name right) said quite bluntly that if you don't think TWAW the LibDems don't want you.

So: fuck off, LibDems.

TWETMIRF · 09/01/2024 09:20

I thought they said they didn't want us as their members or voters? Why are they surprised that they told a significant part of the population to fuck off and we did?

1dayatatime · 09/01/2024 09:12

ArabellaScott · 08/01/2024 22:14

I still wish I could vote for them. They're my party of choice, but they appear to have been taken over by silky-voiced woman-hating bots.

Sadly I feel the same way and it's not good for democracy either to see their demise and the removal of "another option" to either Conservative or Labour.

SunflowerSeeds123 · 09/01/2024 08:55

Agree with all the above.

I used to have a LibDem MP (Simon Hughes) who back in the 80ss slugged it out with Peter Tatchell (Labour) for the seat. Simon's campaign was to slag off Peter for being gay.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/feb/24/bermondsey-was-the-dirtiest-most-violent-british-election-of-the-20th-century-and-we-can-learn-from-it-today

Simon was a great MP. He actually helped people. But he was outed as Bisexual which really tainted how he got elected in the first place.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/another-day-another-lib-dem-disaster-hughes-admits-he-lied-about-his-sexuality-6110664.html

I think the problem with the Lib Dems is they take the "liberal" part too far. They want to be seen as progressive. But their stance is regressive for women, for children and for the disabled who need intimate care. That's why I stopped voting LibDem

(Neil Coyle (Labour) is now Bermondsey's MP and was caught a couple of times for being racist towards British Chinese people. He's since apologised, of course. I moved away years ago to a constituency with an MP with a massive Labour majority. Rock and hard place)

Bermondsey was the dirtiest, most violent British election of the 20th century – and we can learn from it today | Peter Tatchell

I suffered vile homophobia and more than 100 assaults before the poll, 40 years ago. But I also learned the value of grassroot politics, says writer and activist Peter Tatchell

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/feb/24/bermondsey-was-the-dirtiest-most-violent-british-election-of-the-20th-century-and-we-can-learn-from-it-today

PurplePim · 09/01/2024 08:51

You could add a link to this thread. I've never been a lib dem voter, but after their coalition with the Conservatives and with their blinkered and loudly dogmatic view on trans, I never will be. I'd rather spoil my ballot paper.

It's a shame. I know of several lib dem women who are trying to improve things and I'm amazed at their tenacity in the face of everything they're thrown. Incredible women.

EweCee · 09/01/2024 08:49

Just send them the link to this thread.

Winnading · 09/01/2024 08:46

We all remember nick Clegg? And the university fees thing. I think that was the end of lib dem. And for that alone they deserve to disband in ignominy. Then you get to recent years and the inability to know who is a woman and who isnt, well it's no wonder the party will die.

bellinisurge · 09/01/2024 08:38

They get dosh from the makers of Lupron. They can literally go fuck themselves.

StragglyTinsel · 09/01/2024 08:16

It’s a wonder that the libdems don’t understand their slide into total irrelevancy over the last decade. They seem to have been keen to exacerbate it at every opportunity.

They’re clinging on in some areas of local government. Where I live usually has Lib Dem councillors. But that even feels locally as complacency - and just the Lib Dem’s being neither Labour nor the Tories, particularly Labour (as it’s a Labour council and very much a Labour parliamentary constituency). There’s no local sense that anyone believes the Lib Dems stand for anything important. They’re like a placeholder.

porridgecrumble · 09/01/2024 05:29

I used to vote libdem. Never again.I will not support a party that accepts lots of money from a company that makes drugs used to sterilise children.

AvacadoFieldsForever · 09/01/2024 05:26

GrimDamnFanjo · 09/01/2024 01:33

Former active member here. I'd like to think they'd listen but it's unlikely. I've been following Baroness Ludford. The abuse she gets from members is disgusting.

Yep. And it’s definitely abuse. Not disagreement. Not education. Not being a good ally. It’s abuse.

GrimDamnFanjo · 09/01/2024 01:33

Former active member here. I'd like to think they'd listen but it's unlikely. I've been following Baroness Ludford. The abuse she gets from members is disgusting.

Saisong · 08/01/2024 22:15

If you left the party how come they are still emailing you? Isn't it a GDPR breach or something - they have no legitimate reason to keep your information?

ArabellaScott · 08/01/2024 22:14

I still wish I could vote for them. They're my party of choice, but they appear to have been taken over by silky-voiced woman-hating bots.

AvacadoFieldsForever · 08/01/2024 21:57

I used to vote Lib Dem but they have not just allowed but encouraged this group to bully and attack and act in non democratic ways. They have not applied any scrutiny or asked for even basic data or plans of what will happen with self ID. This is a massive piece of social change however you look at it - if you want to back it fine, but at least understand what you are doing.

If this group can do it then any other group can too. Any group that shouts the
loudest and smears the most shamelessly will get their own way now.

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