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The Post Office has a death wish

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Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 05/01/2024 09:28

This week, of all weeks, when there is huge outrage at the way the Post Office has behaved towards subpostmasters over the Horizon scandal, thanks to the excellent ITV dramatisation Mr Bates vs The Post Office - on X/Twitter someone whose bio makes it abundantly clear she's a lesbian tweeted about a patronising and offensive tweet from the Post Office last summer about the word 'queer'. Instead of apologising, or deleting the tweet, or even just ignoring it, some blue-hairded genderist with the password for their social media has doubled down. It's not going down well, I'm pleased to report.

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LondonLass91 · 05/01/2024 17:17

ApocalipstickNow · 05/01/2024 17:08

😂

Maybe she identifies as a cat?

ApocalipstickNow · 05/01/2024 17:08

Thisisnotmyname2022 · 05/01/2024 12:08

If I had twitter I would reply. I find it childishly funny that someone called Jess has replied, all I can think of is Postman Pat’s cat 😂

😂

PurpleSparkledPixie · 05/01/2024 16:50

I have always thought the PO was the parent company so they are linked very strongly.... now I'm not so sure. So what do the PO actually do if they aren't letters/parcels, do they just sell stamps, be a collection point for RM and ?

EDIT - I know they used to do car tax, passports and driving licences but thats mostly online now. It's not their speciality.

puncheur · 05/01/2024 16:15

Royal Mail Group PR must be reading this thread with their heads in their hands. Over a decade since they split from the Post Office and still being tarred with the same brush. Poor buggers.

BettyFilous · 05/01/2024 16:01

The post office should have social media that says "Need to post a letter? try us. We're not the worst option"

Debateable given recent coverage about letters backing up in sorting offices or being disposed of rather than delivered.

NeverStopTwinkling · 05/01/2024 15:53

puncheur · 05/01/2024 15:05

That's Royal Mail. Completely separate company.

Yeah my bad, pp corrected me already. It's all mail to me 🤷🏻‍♀️ but one company is helpfully educating us.

puncheur · 05/01/2024 15:49

mumda · 05/01/2024 14:52

I think they're asking for some letters...
Simply write ‘Freepost OPEN LETTERS TO QUEER BRITAIN’
on the front of your envelope’. No need to include a stamp, postage is on us.

I wonder if the lady at the post office will let me send them something heavy.

Why cause extra work for Royal Mail, which has nothing to do with the Post Office?

ArabellaScott · 05/01/2024 15:40

''[Music]
take one
[Music]
writing and using words it's the only
thing that i've ever
really been good at it's the only thing
that's ever really brought me any sort
of like peace
the certain emotions you don't know that
you even felt about something until
you've actually now got on paper and you
realize and it actually makes it very
real
just speak from the heart speak from the
mind speak from anywhere elsen [picture of arse]
your voice is the biggest instrument you
will ever be given
so use it to your advantage now is the
time to reflect and look backwards
so that when the moment happens where we
can live freely again we go out
connected to
our past but fighting even harder for
our future
as a gay man i'm often asked to reflect
on the gay experience
how do i navigate the choppy waters of
being a homo in today's political
climate
you may feel that you aren't seen aren't
heard but one day i promise
you will find people who hear you and
hang on your every word
i never thought i would be where i am
married to an amazing woman
loved supported and most recently a
father
know that you're not alone that it's
worth the wait
and that you can be all you dreamed of
this queer and mighty family who have
been marginalia
been kindling bin flame and ash we
the shining products of generations of
struggle
we who cannot be spent nor extinguished
for all the world's trying i couldn't
imagine a life in which i could see
myself as queer
i saw like myself as a mixed-race black
girl
i saw being lgbtq plus as a white people
thing and not something for me
as a person who lives with a disability
being severely sight impaired
i also know of a fear of being
vulnerable
i remember realizing i was gay and using
every fiber of my being to hide it
then i came out and caught up for lost
time
queer britain is a charity working to
establish a national
lgbtq plus museum for everybody
regardless of sexuality or gender
identity
coming out is not for us it's for them i
wish i never came out
i wish i explored experienced and
existed in my queerness alone
without the outside noise from family or
white society
i will end this by saying that i am
british pakistani
south asian muslim transgender queer
and disabled i want to live in a world
where these labels mean
nothing and everything we owe it to
everyone
and to future generations to tell our
own stories
and our own voices because if we don't
somebody else will
write your open letter address it to
free post open letters to queer britain
be part of history
you'

ArabellaScott · 05/01/2024 15:35

They want letters, do they?

puncheur · 05/01/2024 15:05

NeverStopTwinkling · 05/01/2024 11:46

I'll 'allow' them to deliver letters and parcels. That's really about it.

That's Royal Mail. Completely separate company.

mumda · 05/01/2024 14:52

LondonLass91 · 05/01/2024 14:09

Arghhh..make it stop..will they just..stop writing the word queer over and over again...
https://www.postoffice.co.uk/open-letters-to-queer-britain

I think they're asking for some letters...
Simply write ‘Freepost OPEN LETTERS TO QUEER BRITAIN’
on the front of your envelope’. No need to include a stamp, postage is on us.

I wonder if the lady at the post office will let me send them something heavy.

PaterPower · 05/01/2024 14:21

Well this post prompted me to sign the “strip Paula Vennells of her CBE” petition on 38degrees, so that’s one unintended consequence of ‘Jess’ ill considered tweet.

StellaAndCrow · 05/01/2024 13:52

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 05/01/2024 12:27

Mail had an article yesterday from one postmaster who was reported as smelling of drink and leaving the safe open over night. He said it was all lies and when the person doing the report was asked at the enquiry why she'd put those things in she 'couldn't remember.'

PO was desperate for the system to be right. So it had to be the postmasters - despite the fact that logic and common sense dictates that 700 odd wouldn't all go rogue at the same time.

Yes, I heard on the Radio 4 podcast that they'd said in court that one postmaster - left the safe open, door locks were unsafe, cheques left out on the counter, gave unauthorised people access to cash etc etc.

When it eventually turned out that this was a CHECKLIST for security, and not things that had actually happened, she "couldn't remember" how that false information had been given in court.

StellaAndCrow · 05/01/2024 13:48

They may as well say "You're the only one that finds it offensive - everyone else is fine with it". Worked so well for them so far.

LondonLass91 · 05/01/2024 13:20

Kernackered · 05/01/2024 12:33

Nothing to add, other than Aja is superb and her and her girlfriend (wife?) spend a lot of time fighting the good fight. Fierce women.

Indeed they do...👏
https://bryndisb.substack.com/p/aja-the-empress-iam-an-adult-human

Aja The Empress: "#IAm an Adult Human Female"

Interview with Women's Rights activist Aja after her solo protest march around central London

https://bryndisb.substack.com/p/aja-the-empress-iam-an-adult-human

Zeugma · 05/01/2024 13:14

@SinnerBoy I'd also strongly recommend a reading of this excellent special report by Private Eye, which has been following the Horizon scandal for many years. It’s long and very detailed but extremely good.

Paula Vennells' role in burying the truth about the failures of the technology is very clearly outlined in this.

https://www.private-eye.co.uk/pictures/special_reports/justice-lost-in-the-post.pdf

Theyarehere · 05/01/2024 13:13

Silly old post office.

Froodwithatowel · 05/01/2024 13:13

There are people out there who would feel affronted and offended if they believed that theiridentity as 'queer' was being belittled, ignored or treated as inferior.

These are normally the same people who will scream and wail for hours if anyone dares to not use the language they say they identify with, and tell you that it is coercive and violent and literally erasing them and Other Hyperbole Too if you fail to do this, while boring the pants off you about how awful it is to assume and label and not respect people's identities and feelings and choices because history and colonialism and generational trauma and so on.

While at the same time telling those LGB people who say that 'queer' to them is a terrible, distressing word and women who say they don't identify as 'cis' to shut up and submit to being called what they're told.

The one negates the other. I would respect a genuinely held, universally applied value. I do not respect at all someone who is ranting a lot of nonsense they don't actually believe for no other reason than to make people do as they say and as serves them personally.

Tallisker · 05/01/2024 13:06

What's the betting that "Jess" has no idea of the furore around the Post Office this week following the TV drama?

popebishop · 05/01/2024 13:02

The PO reply is really confusing. Are they genuinely denying that "queer" is used as a slur? They start talking about when they think it isn't, but not about what Aja actually is talking about, which is when it is a slur.

"Allow me to educate you about what I call you" is peak 12-year-old too. I'm feeling huge 3rd-hand cringe for them.

CharityCEO · 05/01/2024 12:47

Vennels left the post office with a hefty pay out and a CBE to go on to other lucrative jobs and to be a part time vicar.

I’ve worked closely with some small Christian charities and not all of the evangelical Anglican ministers are arrogant hypocrites who think they are special ‘good’ people beyond reproach.. But I’ve come across enough of them that are to make me a lot more cautious in my dealings with them, especially the part time vicars.

HottestEverRecordedTemperature · 05/01/2024 12:45

'Allow us to educate'. WTAF?!

SidewaysOtter · 05/01/2024 12:35

Thisisnotmyname2022 · 05/01/2024 12:08

If I had twitter I would reply. I find it childishly funny that someone called Jess has replied, all I can think of is Postman Pat’s cat 😂

They should let the cat run the Twitter/X/Twix account, they’d be better at it than this halfwit (although you can bet your bottom dollar that Jess has now been assigned duties other than “Making a bad PR week immeasurably worse”).

But people like that always seem to think they have some pious right to “educate” us all into their mindset. So she/them/Jess-self can fuck right off.

Kernackered · 05/01/2024 12:33

Nothing to add, other than Aja is superb and her and her girlfriend (wife?) spend a lot of time fighting the good fight. Fierce women.

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