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Kate Osborne MP: 'My NY Resolution is to block T*rfs'

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ArabellaScott · 31/12/2023 15:07

https://twitter.com/KateOsborneMP/status/1741418883167170950

That's what she said.

https://twitter.com/KateOsborneMP/status/1741418883167170950

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Floisme · 31/12/2023 19:04

*Can you show me where Labour have said they will protect single-sex female-only spaces?

I thought they’d only ever mentioned women needing “safe spaces”, in a tricksy sleight of hand.*

Anneliese Dodds has twice said that Labour will protect the Equality Act
'and its provision for single-sex exemptions.'
Once in a Guardian article a few months ago and a second time in the House of Commons a couple of weeks ago (in a debate with Kemi Badenoch where she - AD - was quite spectacularly wooden).

Both times she repeated the phrase pretty much word for word. Whether that's because she wants to be precise or because this is lawyer approved wording that conceals another sleight of hand ... well I've not decided yet.

Topofthemountain · 31/12/2023 18:48

NoMoreFalafelsForYou · 31/12/2023 18:11

Does she not realise that just about everyone and their mother is a "TERF"?
🙄 No, not everyone is. Speak for yourself.

So Isla Bryson should be in the female estate then?

As long as you are prepared to own it, then crack on.

PronounssheRa · 31/12/2023 18:47

To be fair it's Linda Riley flicking the V, Kate is sitting next to her grinning like a fool.

But, 57 and acting like your involved in student politics 🙄

FrancescaContini · 31/12/2023 18:42

I’ve just had a quick google of Kate. Apparently she’s 57! And has two children! So she must know better than to flick the V sign.

I read that she’s just said on Twatter: “Politicians have got to realise that their language has consequences.” I wonder how she squares this with using TERF?

LoobiJee · 31/12/2023 18:36

MargotBamborough · 31/12/2023 18:02

The devil is in the detail though, isn't it?

I suspect they are using a different definition of "single sex" to the rest of us.

Can you show me where Labour have said they will protect single-sex female-only spaces?

I thought they’d only ever mentioned women needing “safe spaces”, in a tricksy sleight of hand.

MargotBamborough · 31/12/2023 18:24

NoMoreFalafelsForYou · 31/12/2023 18:11

Does she not realise that just about everyone and their mother is a "TERF"?
🙄 No, not everyone is. Speak for yourself.

I don't have to.

Just about every poll that has been done on this issue says the same thing.

FrancescaContini · 31/12/2023 18:19

Really obnoxious of her to give the middle finger to Sharron. How old is she - 14?

Floisme · 31/12/2023 18:18

Yes that well might be correct Margot but, if they want voters like me to believe them - which I assume they do - then as an absolute minimum, the leadership need to get a grip. Because saying nothing while your backbenchers openly tweet their contempt for what's supposed to be party policy is a dreadful look.

EasternStandard · 31/12/2023 18:13

And people are keen for Labour

NoMoreFalafelsForYou · 31/12/2023 18:11

Does she not realise that just about everyone and their mother is a "TERF"?
🙄 No, not everyone is. Speak for yourself.

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 31/12/2023 18:11

I think the same, Margot. Osbourne's attitude is strongly indicative of what lies behind Labour recent weasel words.

MargotBamborough · 31/12/2023 18:02

Floisme · 31/12/2023 17:59

I'm not really interested in whether it's hate speech to be honest. But I'm interested that a Labour representative on the Women and Equalities Select Committee appears to be comfortable using a term that's abusive of women who want to retain single sex spaces - a policy her own party is meant to support.

The devil is in the detail though, isn't it?

I suspect they are using a different definition of "single sex" to the rest of us.

Floisme · 31/12/2023 17:59

I'm not really interested in whether it's hate speech to be honest. But I'm interested that a Labour representative on the Women and Equalities Select Committee appears to be comfortable using a term that's abusive of women who want to retain single sex spaces - a policy her own party is meant to support.

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 31/12/2023 17:56

duc748 · 31/12/2023 17:08

She seems very dim. Her v Badenoch was painful watching. And it's not like she's a kid; she's 57!

She's what?

That juvenile posturing is from someone more than two decades older than me?

I'm aghast.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 31/12/2023 17:51

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 31/12/2023 17:50

Tired of
Explaining
Reality to
Fuckwits.

Oops, X post with Margot there!

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 31/12/2023 17:50

Talkinpeace · 31/12/2023 17:37

Telling
Everybody
Real
Facts
is surely what the original tweet meant

Tired of
Explaining
Reality to
Fuckwits.

MargotBamborough · 31/12/2023 17:41

DworkinWasRight · 31/12/2023 17:40

In a general election year, it’s a bold move to block the people you’re hoping will return you to power.

Does she not realise that just about everyone and their mother is a "TERF"?

MargotBamborough · 31/12/2023 17:40

Talkinpeace · 31/12/2023 17:37

Telling
Everybody
Real
Facts
is surely what the original tweet meant

Tired of Explaining Reality to Fuckwits.

DworkinWasRight · 31/12/2023 17:40

In a general election year, it’s a bold move to block the people you’re hoping will return you to power.

MargotBamborough · 31/12/2023 17:39

NoMoreFalafelsForYou · 31/12/2023 17:38

As in, it's presumably not hate speech when the person she's replying to uses the word, but as soon as Kate does, it's suddenly "that's hate speech!"

I think it's a bit like the "n" word.

Acceptable for those in the group being described to reclaim it and use it about themselves.

But if anyone else uses it about them it is clearly hate speech.

NoMoreFalafelsForYou · 31/12/2023 17:38

As in, it's presumably not hate speech when the person she's replying to uses the word, but as soon as Kate does, it's suddenly "that's hate speech!"

Talkinpeace · 31/12/2023 17:37

Telling
Everybody
Real
Facts
is surely what the original tweet meant

MargotBamborough · 31/12/2023 17:36

NoMoreFalafelsForYou · 31/12/2023 17:35

If you are incapable of responding in an appropriate manner to the person who has actually annoyed you without using a term which constitutes hate speech and could be applied to the vast majority of the electorate
Seemingly "constitutes hate speech" when it suits.

Huh?

NoMoreFalafelsForYou · 31/12/2023 17:35

If you are incapable of responding in an appropriate manner to the person who has actually annoyed you without using a term which constitutes hate speech and could be applied to the vast majority of the electorate
Seemingly "constitutes hate speech" when it suits.

MargotBamborough · 31/12/2023 17:35

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 31/12/2023 17:34

Whatever happened to going high when someone goes low?

Maybe they are all literally high, which explains why they think women can have penises.