Active discussions

Please or to access all these features

Talk
Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Feminism: chat

Original poster

Kate Osborne MP: 'My NY Resolution is to block T*rfs'

137 replies

ArabellaScott · 31/12/2023 15:07

https://twitter.com/KateOsborneMP/status/1741418883167170950

That's what she said.

https://twitter.com/KateOsborneMP/status/1741418883167170950

OP posts:
Thread gallery
6
Original poster
ArabellaScott · 31/12/2023 23:38

Women and Equalities Committee
Strategy Statement

The Women and Equalities Committee makes sure that Government is fulfilling its duty to reduce discrimination and create a more inclusive society, including through the Equality Act 2010 and cross-Government activity on equalities. It also looks at the work of the Government Equalities Office, the Equality and Human Rights Commission and the Social Mobility Commission.

High-level objectives:
In our work, we are guided by four aims:

Hold to account the Government, government bodies and other key stakeholders on their action to reduce inequalities.

Listen and engage with those with protected characteristics about the inequalities they face. Making their voices central to our work by championing their needs and influencing improvement in their lives.

Provide analysis of equalities by using the information we gather, facilitating discussion, advancing effective recommendations, and increasing the availability/accessibility of useful information on equalities in the public domain.

Build public confidence in Parliamentary scrutiny on equalities by providing leadership on the equalities and inclusion agenda.

Inclusive
creating a space for a diverse range of contributions

Compassionate
listening and responding to people’s experiences of inequalities

Collaborative
bringing together our collective capabilities and knowledge within our cross-party membership

Influential
being accountable for how we seek to deliver critical thinking on equalities issues, and contribute to public understanding and public engagement

Transparent
visibly using the best available evidence

'My NY resolution is to block t*rfs'

OP posts:
NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 31/12/2023 22:40

NoMoreFalafelsForYou · 31/12/2023 20:34

Exactly
I'm not the one saying she's not acting her age, or "can't believe she's 57!"
Like there's a way you're supposed to act when you're in your 50s.
🙄

Like an adult. HTH. Hence why I commented on how juvenile her behaviour was.

JanesLittleGirl · 31/12/2023 22:33

Jeez, I dunno but my response would have been something like "OK Love, give it your best shot".

Original poster
ArabellaScott · 31/12/2023 21:39
  • sorry, I also meant to say, she is actively saying she refuses to listen to the views of gc women. That is discrimination, given her position, surely?
OP posts:
Original poster
ArabellaScott · 31/12/2023 21:34

It is childish and unbecoming of an MP, yes.

I find it more worrying that a member of the WESC thinks its appropriate to use a term that is most often used as a slur, and is hugely divisive and "othering', especially given the very tense situation surrounding the very issues she is paid to discuss in Parliament.

Imagine if an MP in that committee used the T word that is also a slur, often 'reclaimed' by trans people but certainly not one that is acceptable for others to use. (And not one I've ever used, fwiw).

She should not be sitting on the WESC. It's untenable.

OP posts:
morningtoncrescent62 · 31/12/2023 21:15

NoMoreFalafelsForYou · 31/12/2023 20:25

Can't believe she's 57
Yes, must be all proper in your 50s.
Goodness.

I was surprised that she's in her 50s. I think public representatives should behave with dignity, and they should take care not to alienate the people they're paid to represent. Indulging in childish name-calling is not 'proper'. But when it comes to people who were elected very young, and have had very little life experience, it makes it a bit more understandable, though still not right. I, too, thought she was much younger.

MargotBamborough · 31/12/2023 20:55

NoMoreFalafelsForYou · 31/12/2023 20:34

Exactly
I'm not the one saying she's not acting her age, or "can't believe she's 57!"
Like there's a way you're supposed to act when you're in your 50s.
🙄

Well you're supposed to act like you're older than 12.

PurpleBugz · 31/12/2023 20:53

So she has no care to represent a large proportion of her constituency. Sad that I'm not surprised

Original poster
ArabellaScott · 31/12/2023 20:40

TWETMIRF · 31/12/2023 20:38

I'm a councillor and there are people in my parish who I feel are utter scum. If they came to me for help as a councillor then I would absolutely help them just the same as I would anyone else. I am elected for everyone, not just the people I like. I certainly wouldn't post online that I only listen to a proportion of people, it's a breach of the Nolan principles and I could be disciplined for it.

She's surely got to be in breach of a number of parliamentary rules for her actions

I did wonder that.

OP posts:
TWETMIRF · 31/12/2023 20:38

I'm a councillor and there are people in my parish who I feel are utter scum. If they came to me for help as a councillor then I would absolutely help them just the same as I would anyone else. I am elected for everyone, not just the people I like. I certainly wouldn't post online that I only listen to a proportion of people, it's a breach of the Nolan principles and I could be disciplined for it.

She's surely got to be in breach of a number of parliamentary rules for her actions

NoMoreFalafelsForYou · 31/12/2023 20:34

Exactly
I'm not the one saying she's not acting her age, or "can't believe she's 57!"
Like there's a way you're supposed to act when you're in your 50s.
🙄

BreadInCaptivity · 31/12/2023 20:33

It's an immature response that belies an immature understanding of the issues at hand.

We deserve more from our MP's than these sorts of comments on social media where they ignore their constituents in favour of random likes on X.

ResisterRex · 31/12/2023 20:30

NoMoreFalafelsForYou · 31/12/2023 20:25

Can't believe she's 57
Yes, must be all proper in your 50s.
Goodness.

What does "proper" as in "being all proper" mean here?

NoMoreFalafelsForYou · 31/12/2023 20:25

Can't believe she's 57
Yes, must be all proper in your 50s.
Goodness.

Floisme · 31/12/2023 20:23

I take that to mean protecting the status quo. Ie what we have now. The EqA as it is and a situation where women lose out

Yes I take it that way too - protect it as it is but do nothing to strengthen or clarify it. If I were in the Conservative Party, I'd be moving heaven and earth to get them moving on that commitment they made to clarifying that 'sex' in the EA means biological sex. I think that could really put some pressure on Labour.

ResisterRex · 31/12/2023 20:06

Can't believe she's 57.

UtopiaPlanitia · 31/12/2023 20:01

Feck’s sake Osborne, act your age not your shoe size 🙄

Doublerainbow23 · 31/12/2023 19:48

Wow. How can someone who uses hate speech be an MP (leaving aside all the other ways I could criticise her)?

LoobiJee · 31/12/2023 19:46

Thanks floisme

So it’s several paras on how Labour are going to make it easier for men to get a certificate which says they are female but will be more canny and tactical in how they approach that goal than the SNP were. And then this:

“Moreover, let me be clear: we are proud of the Equality Act and will oppose any Conservative attempt to undermine it. We will protect and uphold it in government, including both its protected characteristics and its provision for single-sex exemptions.
^^
We need to recognise that sex and gender are different – as the Equality Act does. We will make sure that nothing in our modernised gender recognition process would override the single-sex exemptions in the Equality Act. Put simply, this means that there will always be places where it is reasonable for biological women only to have access. Labour will defend those spaces, providing legal clarity for the providers of single-sex services.”

MargotBamborough · 31/12/2023 19:41

EasternStandard · 31/12/2023 19:31

I take that to mean protecting the status quo. Ie what we have now. The EqA as it is and a situation where women lose out

Edited
Show quote history

Yep. The Act says it is legal to provide female only rape crisis groups but any organisation which wants to provide them will find itself targeted over allegations of transphobia and forced to include trans women or starved of funding and shut down.

EasternStandard · 31/12/2023 19:31

Floisme · 31/12/2023 19:04

*Can you show me where Labour have said they will protect single-sex female-only spaces?

I thought they’d only ever mentioned women needing “safe spaces”, in a tricksy sleight of hand.*

Anneliese Dodds has twice said that Labour will protect the Equality Act
'and its provision for single-sex exemptions.'
Once in a Guardian article a few months ago and a second time in the House of Commons a couple of weeks ago (in a debate with Kemi Badenoch where she - AD - was quite spectacularly wooden).

Both times she repeated the phrase pretty much word for word. Whether that's because she wants to be precise or because this is lawyer approved wording that conceals another sleight of hand ... well I've not decided yet.

I take that to mean protecting the status quo. Ie what we have now. The EqA as it is and a situation where women lose out

duc748 · 31/12/2023 19:28

Likewise. I'm still (just) a Labour Party member. But I don't like or trust Starmer.

Floisme · 31/12/2023 19:24

I may end up agreeing with you duc748 but they have until polling day to convince me otherwise. They won't be able to complain I didn't give them every possible chance.

duc748 · 31/12/2023 19:21

Whether that's because she wants to be precise or because this is lawyer approved wording that conceals another sleight of hand... well I've not decided yet.

Well, I think I have... 😛

It's a bit like, when politicians say, "Let me be clear..."