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USA Boxing to allow transgender women to fight born women

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IwantToRetire · 30/12/2023 23:59

The amateur mainstay of the unpaid code in the sport set out guidelines each transgender boxer must follow to trade blows with a cis-gender.

So far, the move has been met with anger from some. Meanwhile, the transgender and broader LGBTQ community has welcomed it.

The complete list of rules can be read here https://www.worldboxingnews.net/2023/12/30/usa-boxing-transgender-boxing-policy/

I've used the link above as it is quite specific about age, testosterone, etc.. But for a more pacy read there is always the Daily Mail https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-12912389/USA-Boxing-transgender-women-compete-female-boxers-2024-policy.html

USA Boxing to allow transgender women to fight born women

USA Boxing set out its 'Transgender Policy' for 2024 with male-to-female transitioners to be able to compete against born women.

https://www.worldboxingnews.net/2023/12/30/usa-boxing-transgender-boxing-policy

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StephanieSuperpowers · 31/12/2023 09:29

Cancelledcurio · 31/12/2023 00:04

Ffs! Women will be killed and/or badly injured. Insanity!

I don't think they will be satisfied until a woman is killed - and maybe not even then.

Froodwithatowel · 31/12/2023 08:59

Men. They are men. The whole 'transgender women' wording is how this has been able to happen in the first place. Men are not women, and they have made very clear that any kind obfuscation to salve feelings will be used to physically harm and literally hurt women in this case, with flat out risk of killing one.

So no. Men. End of.

TempestTost · 31/12/2023 00:41

I wonder how this will go over with boxing clubs and actual boxers? My so boxes, so I see a bit of that world, and I really can't picture it being accepted. Finding fights and sparring partners for women and girls can be tricky, and people go to some lengths to try and make it happen. You'll see men and women spar but the men are clearly holding back. Or fights where one woman is much more experienced and so holds back. No one has any illusions about the differences in male and female strength, or the need to be evenly matched for fairness.

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IwantToRetire · 31/12/2023 00:21

Let alone the time and money they are spending on this to placate a tiny minority of men at the expense of women.

Personally I dislike boxing, but if there are women who want to take part, why isn't the Association focusing on helping them and other wome get proper represenation and opportunity within the sport.

Yet again, what should be about women gaining equality is being hijacked by a few mediocre men, who want to cheat by competing against women.

Why cant everybody just get together and say no the the trans agenda.

Nothing wrong with having women who reject traditional feminity or men rejecting macho culture.

But for heavens sake just get on with it and stop expect the whole world to stop and re-arrange itself.

It's like everybody has totally lost perspective on reality.

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Codlingmoths · 31/12/2023 00:17

Totally unclear if just a boob job counts as reassignment surgery, but I’m also surprised at the ‘broad lgbt support’, aren’t they usually furious at conditions like surgery is required and a 4 year test period prior to being allowed to compete? Do any current boxers meet this (potentially, I guess they haven’t been regularly tested to prove it)

ZoomerDinosaur · 31/12/2023 00:12

The requirement for full reassignment surgery (though I notice this has been vaguely worded), together with the hormone requirements, will disqualify most transwomen from taking part. But not all of them.

The athlete, for a minimum of four years after surgery, has had quarterly hormone testing and presents USA Boxing documentation of hormone levels.

It honestly makes me rage when sports bodies bring up "acceptable" hormone levels as though this puts a transwoman on the same footing as a woman. They are spectacularly missing the most important advantage, which is that men have bigger bodies, more muscle and more inherent force behind their punches.

Cancelledcurio · 31/12/2023 00:04

Ffs! Women will be killed and/or badly injured. Insanity!

Peasand · 31/12/2023 00:00

Good old daily Mail. I hope more people read it