Will Gender Ideology influence how you vote?

Well the Party of Women isn't going to win any seats is it?
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I've voted either labour or green all my life, right up until the last election, when I spoilt my ballot.

I feel betrayed by all the parties on the left, and don't think Labour can be trusted to protect the rights of the most disadvantaged.

I haven't forgotten the way New Labour claimed they were the party of "WORKING people" and continued dismantling the social security system that protected women and children, they also continued to saddle the NHS with loads of PFI debt, benefiting their own cronies, in the exact same way the tory politicians sometimes do.

I was prepared to still vote for them, as being the best of a rotten lot, until they started pretending that women are just a bunch of non-men who have no special needs or rights, and that child safeguarding was a conspiracy of right wing pearl clutchers on the wrong side of history.

If the Party of Women isn't up and running by the next election giving me someone to vote for, then I will be voting Conservative.

While I agree with your point, I do find threads like this help me think things through.

At some point I really must look back at similar threads over the years to see at how I've travelled from, 'Don't be absurd' to 'Oh please Labour, just say any old nonsense and I'll vote for you', to now where I'm on the edge of outright contempt for them, and which I'm not sure I can ever come back from.

What a thoroughly depressing conversation this is, where's the sherry.

I'm GC but I can't vote Tory!

The Home Secretary thiinks it's ok to joke about drugging his wife with Rohypnol! FGS!

they will rip families apart with their new limits for spouse & work visas!

changing how holiday days and pay are calculated for people who do not work full-time throughout the year, such as shift-workers, school employees and those on zero-hours contracts. This will mainly affect women!

Never mind the broken post system, railway systems, sewerage into sea! Their 'green policies or the lack of that will affect our kids lives!

I don't think the Country can stand another 5 years - there will be nothing left!

Well you do you, as is everyone's right.

However you asked a question. For me the answer is no.

Surely no women can vote Tory either as their policies disproportionately impact women? You want to vote for a party where a prominent cabinet member jokes about giving his wife rohypnol and women bear 86% of the austerity burden (Guardian and various sources).

Whilst self ID is a huge and important issue (and I am sure someone will come on and say that there won't be women if we vote labour etc) the needs of every woman should be put first and then fight the self ID bullshit. If more women had less worried about poverty and bills and surviving they would have more time to back the ID cause.

Before anyone jumps on me I don't agree with self ID and everything connected to it - but I work with the kids who are suffering from the poverty that 13 years of a Tory government have caused and that is the priority.

No. I vote tactically, whichever party I need to get the Tories out.

No.

However I vote it makes no difference I live in a solid Labour seat.

I’ve only ever voted Labour once (‘97) and I usually vote for the socialist candidate if they stand.

My vote is worthless.

In an ideal world I would vote for the party that best protects women's sex based rights - but I could never bring myself to vote for the Conservative Party.
I've always been a Labour Party voter and despite this one major issue I will still vote for them.
Party politics and what is best for the general public are not just about this one sticking point and the Tories are evil. They only care about the ultra wealthy and maintaining that privilege - they don't give a hoot about anyone else and things will only continue to get worse if we allow them to stay in power. In my opinion people who vote conservative are inherently selfish.

Anyone who votes Tory after the absolute devastation they have wreaked on the UK in the past decade+ ( Brexit referendum, COVID response, NHS, schools, children's mental health services, adult social care, housing, Universal Credit with all the misery that has brought, Liz Truss and the collapse of the economy, the shit show in the Home Office, the ever widening chasm between rich and poor and the general contempt this government has for us peasants) because they think the Tories are somehow on the side of women is severely short sighted.
Men have been sent to women's prisons under the Tories. Schools have been teaching insane gender crap under the Tories. Poorer people (and that is increasingly including the previously comfy middle classes) have been relentlessly targeted and dehumanised under the Tories.
I can't stand a lot of Labour politicians, but I would still rather give them a go than the current lying, cheating, moral- free scumbags we have now.
I don't mind Kier and think he will.go whichever way the country pushes him, rather than impose more ideology that damages women's rights. As opposed to whatever swivel eyed right wing ideologue the Tories will re-animate to front their next grift.
I'm a pragmatist and will choose the least worst option. But MN is full of solidly middle class people who feel safe with their paid off mortgages, secure jobs and fat pensions so I'm not surprised lots on here will vote idealogically, and screw the poor.

There have been eleventy billion threads on this. They always end up in a huge row with women being scolded for whichever choice they make plus partial screenshots ending up on TRA twitter/facebook

Thanks. Saved me the trouble of typing that out.

And other bizarre statements.

Even my lifelong staunch Tory-voting Wellington-schooled straight-into-the-army father is so disgusted by this government's demonisation of minorities, catastrophic mishandling of the country and constant brazen dishonesty that he is no longer voting for them.

I would urge anyone who has been swayed by the Tories' current bout of 'standing up for women' lies to have a look at their track record, political connections and influences (including funding sources) and overall philosophy and then engage in a little critical thinking.

The answer isn’t to vote Tory as they don’t give a shit about women’s rights. They are just opportunists. If there is a critical mass of people who feel the way we do, we should organise and lobby Labour to change their stance.

The Tories don't give a shit about the rights of women or anyone else. They only care about continuing a corrupt form of government that lines their own pockets and those of their rich mates.

I'll be voting tory.. not because I think they're a particularly good party, but because I could never bring myself to vote Labour or for any other parties with ridiculous policies

Yes. I won't vote for Labour if they can't affirm what a woman is and if I can't trust them re future rulings in schools, single-sex spaces and sport.

I posted in reply to a similar question a few weeks ago. Here is what I posted there:

Also a centre-left voter. Current ponderings:

• Greens/Lib Dems: creepy, unhinged.
• SDP: Good, but wasted vote.
• Tories: amoral, incompetent, lecherous. But likely to support free speech and know basic biology (if only for seduction purposes).
• Labour: wokey-blokey-transy, anti-Rosie.

Conclusion: if there's SDP candidate, will vote for them. If not, will grill Labour candidate. If not satisfied by answers, will grit my teeth and vote Tory.

Agreed, Heylo. It will be through gritted teeth but I may well vote Tory.

I won't decide until I've seen the Labour manifesto, which I'll be reading with help from a legal dictionary as I expect the wording to be very slippery. And even if it does say the right things, I will still struggle to get past how I've grown to despise them for their craven stupidity. I don't think they have a clue how much damage they have done.

And before the inevitable poster pops up with 'What about the Tories!' yes I know and I have no intention of voting for them either. I think that, when you elect a leader with a track record for dishonesty, then you reap what you sow and can have no complaint when no-one believes anything you say. I think we desperately need a change of government - even the government is behaving like they've had enough now.

It's a truly dismal state of affairs.

I'll be voting Tory, no one else, no ballot spoiling. We have to protect ourselves and our children from having our rights, identities and safety taken away from us. That is the priority.

I’m certainly more likely to vote Tory precisely because of this issue - although I’m very uncomfortable doing so as my politics are left-leaning. I’m just hoping that Starmer wakes up to what’s happening and sorts out the TRAs in his party in time. If not, it will be Tory.

Also agree with this