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Graham Linehan Interviewed on Triggernometry

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UtopiaPlanitia · 21/12/2023 15:14

Hadn’t seen this interview posted as a thread so thought I’d post and link to it. It’s a great interview, Konstantin and Francis asked very insightful questions. The viewer comments are worth a read too.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=va6hXYTMBDI

Backstabbed By Comedy Industry - Graham Linehan

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=va6hXYTMBDI

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MsGoodenough · 23/12/2023 09:06

I am a massive Divine Comedy fan and really upset that Neil Hannon has let Glinner down so badly. He's now in the ascendant writing the music for the Wonka movie and Glinner is in the gutter.

I also think Glinner has suffered through being male. He's been thrown out of his own circles but can't fully enter terf circles and enjoy the cameraderie that offers. He seems so isolated and lonely.

Lottapianos · 23/12/2023 08:50

'Back to Glinner: my heart broke a little to hear he hid his car in case it got repossessed'

Same here. As Konstantin said, the Father Ted musical would have been a licence to print money. Glinner could have been a multi-millionaire by now. Instead, he's penniless and as he repeatedly said, for what reason? He's not a Nazi, he doesn't want anyone harmed (quite the opposite), he has never tried to incite violence. He's told the truth, and refused to parrot nonsense, and his whole life has been trashed for it

I have very mixed feelings about his colleagues who he named in the interim, like Graham Norton, Arthur Matthews and Neil Hannon. On the one hand, I can see how they don't want their lovely careers trashed by openly supporting him. On the other hand, I can understand why Glinner feels so let down and betrayed by them

BitterAndOnlySlightlyTwisted · 22/12/2023 22:25

Back to Glinner: my heart broke a little to hear he hid his car in case it got repossessed

WickedSerious · 22/12/2023 22:21

BeatyBlack · 21/12/2023 18:54

Another Christmas Day shouting at the internet awaits I suspect. Little turkey dinner for one maybe.

You'll be fine,make sure there's enough turkey for a sandwich on Boxing Day.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 22/12/2023 22:03

Yes. Does Beaty Know It's Christmas At All Xmas Sad

Zebracat · 22/12/2023 21:25

Poor @BeatyBlack , maybe we could all chip in and send them an FWR hamper, tunnocks and so on.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 21/12/2023 18:57

Another Christmas Day shouting at the internet awaits I suspect. Little turkey dinner for one maybe.

I'm sorry you don't have anyone to share your Christmas Day with, and that you only have a small bird. Watch something else, maybe? Love Actually is on Netflix.

BeatyBlack · 21/12/2023 18:54

Another Christmas Day shouting at the internet awaits I suspect. Little turkey dinner for one maybe.

RethinkingLife · 21/12/2023 18:38

GrandmaMazur · 21/12/2023 18:23

Thanks. It was nice to hear a comedian being so positive about Graham Linehan’s comedy writing.

On a separate note, I saw Speed the other day and it reminded me of all the scenes in the Father Ted parody with the milk float bomb (rather than the other way round).

RethinkingLife · 21/12/2023 18:31

It seems that it's an acknowledged issue and, unfortunately, it doesn't always redound to people's credit or reputation.

There's a phenomenon known as 'premature anti-[X]' and two of the best known instances are to have been a premature anti-fascist or a premature anti-Nazi.

‘Premature anti-fascist’ was the name by which the Lincoln Brigade veterans of the Spanish Civil War were known by the US Army in World War Two. This service and knowledge didn't distinguish them for a leadership position, it was counted as demerit on their record.

In John Platts-Mills' autobiography (barrister and post-war Labour MP), he recalls being ‘excluded from any form of normal war service by the stupidities of Bevin’. He noted: ‘An anti-Nazi history, was of no help and to have been prematurely anti-Nazi was a positive hindrance … we were condemned throughout most of the 1930s on the grounds that only Communists were against the Nazis and this hostility carried over into the war years.’

Commenting on (British?) veterans of the Spanish Civil War, Platts-Mills wrote that ‘many lefties who had served in Spain were called up or were accepted when they volunteered. Several more got in only after a tussle with the authorities.’
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4366709-Abigail-Shrier-Marci-Bowers-critical-of-puberty-blockers?watched=1&msgid=111375587

[I posted this in the Hadley Freeman comment about Glinner (in case it looks familiar)

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4903960-hadley-freeman-article-about-graham-linehan?reply=129413739&utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=share&utm_source=copylink ]

Hadley Freeman Article About Graham LInehan | Mumsnet

Not actually read it yet but here for anybody who'd like to read: [[https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/6f23ce7c-596a-11ee-a62b-d21c2c8f0b9b?shareToke...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4903960-hadley-freeman-article-about-graham-linehan?reply=129413739

GrandmaMazur · 21/12/2023 18:23

Thanks. It was nice to hear a comedian being so positive about Graham Linehan’s comedy writing.

Lottapianos · 21/12/2023 17:43

Great, got it lined up for tonight. I've got very mixed feelings about the Triggernometry guys but they can be very good, and are consistently sane on trans issues, since been enlightened by Kellie Jay!

UtopiaPlanitia · 21/12/2023 17:42

Giggorata · 21/12/2023 17:28

Thank you for posting this. I have just watched it. What that man has been through, for standing up for principles… and it is still going on.

I am disgusted with his former friends and colleagues who have not only failed to support him, but actively distanced themselves.

Konstantin makes the excellent point that Linehan is being punished by his 'peers' for being first in that circle of people to call attention to these issues and for being right about the issues. And strangely, people are often more forgiving of people who are wrong about a difficult issue than they are of those who are correct about a difficult issue 🤷‍♀️

I also think there’s some level of cultural difference too - Linehan is Irish and we can be blunt when we’re speaking about things that we consider important. I think Linehan has transgressed norms of civility for his peer group in the highly middle class British TV and comedy circuit.

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Giggorata · 21/12/2023 17:28

Thank you for posting this. I have just watched it. What that man has been through, for standing up for principles… and it is still going on.

I am disgusted with his former friends and colleagues who have not only failed to support him, but actively distanced themselves.

AlisonDonut · 21/12/2023 15:29

I just finished listening to it. Legend.

PotteringPondering · 21/12/2023 15:23

Thanks for the link. Watching now.

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