Guilty verdict in Brianna Ghey case

Have they come to you personally and told you that? Have you seen them say that explicitly?

I must say, your desire to deflect from your ignorance is interesting to see.

You don't know anything about those people and their relationship with Brianna do. Her mum says "she" so why not use that as a guide?

YOU have decided it's wrong! It's not up to you! If Brianna's family are ok with it, who are you to police it?

I'm also finding the term "deadname" extremely inappropriate in this thread. Quite sickening actually. This is all about you and your agenda.

I would ask the same of someone who tried to use “but people who knew Brianna used her deadname” in an argument. Just because someone who knew her says it, doesn’t make it right.

Same reason that if I go to a church wedding I don't heckle, or wear a Bad Religion t-shirt. You can respect others beliefs without sharing them.

Who on earth has "belittled" Brianna?

Every single poster has expressed horror at how devastating this has been.

Brianna was clearly a lovely person who wouldn't hurt a fly.

I suggest you step away from this thread as there's clearly something else going on for you to be so inaccurately emotive, and being on social media right now may not be ideal for you.

Jesus fucking Christ it's not a 'flex', what is wrong with you? You are berating women here for doing something people who knew and cared about Brianna did. Because you've decided you are the arbiter of what is proper to say. Even though people who knew and cared about Brianna are saying different, you still think you're right.

Yes I have, and it’s weird how I accepted and loved her because it makes zero difference to how I view her as a human being

Yeah they go to great lengths to avoid doing so because they know it would look terrible if they said "he". Why don't you just say "he"? If you believe so strongly what you believe? Is it because you recognise it would be needlessly cruel?

No, your agenda in how you’re going about it. It’s despicable.

@FriendOfTimo sending .

This is insanely coercive.

People aren't even using male pronouns here.

Have you actually had a family member transition?

It's not that straightforward.

I'm reminded of when Jo Cox and David Amess died. As it should be, politicians from all walks dropped politics for a time and united in agreeing that their murders were atrocious and mourned them.
What didn't happen was parties in opposition to theirs pretending to agree with their politics, or their own parties using their deaths to try to force others others to agree with their politics.

Excellent point. I think the reason this is different is the underlying ideology and how controlling its proponents are. They don't see it as a question of different personal beliefs. They see it as the only truth. And non believers must be shamed. It's religious.

You say this like they were right to do that? Deadnaming someone on their memorial page isn’t the flex you think it is.

The moment you refused to use her pronouns or acknowledge who she was you stopped treating her like a human being.

This is insanely coercive.

You’re right, my ‘agenda’ is disgusting. The one where I ask you to not belittle who she was as a person is so foul. God I only hope I face justice for what I’ve done one day.

People who actually knew Brianna posted fond memories on Brianna's dad's Facebook page, using Brianna's original name and using male pronouns. I am being sincere when I say, I hope you haven't said this there too.

What a truly despicable horrible lie, your agenda is absolutely disgusting.

How do you actually know this?

Being 'supportive' seems to only be affirmation only.

Yet we've already crossed that bridge in terms of understanding that affirmation only can be problematic.

The idea that you don't care because you don't support changing pronouns is pretty virtue signally and doesn't really address a whole bag of things. The catch all doesn't reflect reality of experience.

It is a deeply complex thing.

Yet again it's about simplifing things to the narrowest definitions and purely about identity.

There are people here with a huge breathe of experience and understanding on this subject...

I'm reminded of when Jo Cox and David Amess died. As it should be, politicians from all walks dropped politics for a time and united in agreeing that their murders were atrocious and mourned them.
What didn't happen was parties in opposition to theirs pretending to agree with their politics, or their own parties using their deaths to try to force others others to agree with their politics.

The moment you refused to use her pronouns or acknowledge who she was you stopped treating her like a human being.

Everyone on this thread has treated Brianna as a human being.