Taxpayer-funded children's show with 'trans voices' branded tasteless

It must be horrendous for children. Jimmy Crankee used go confuse me so much, now they see 100s of these.

I don't think anyone IS non-binary.

I reject the whole concept.

And yes, I do consider it to be my business if other people identify as non-binary, because non-binary can only exist to the extent that everyone who is not non-binary is binary.

In terms of biological sex, we are all binary, including people who identify as non-binary. A doctor should understand that better than anyone.

In terms of gender, the idea that the vast majority of us identify with either feminine stereotypes or masculine stereotypes but there is a small group of special non-binary people who don't fit in the boxes the rest of us are in is a heap of regressive, offensive bullshit that can get right in the fucking bin.

I wouldn't be thrilled about my child being taught or influenced by someone who identifies as non-binary for the same reason that I wouldn't want them to be taught or influenced by an evangelical Christian who believes that girls should save themselves for marriage and that all non-believers are going to hell. Because they are proponents of a belief system I think is regressive and damaging.

Nobody is ‘non binary’ - everyone is either male or female. Pronouns are sex based.

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I don’t understand that either

Ah well, it's cunningly constructed so that, if you think you'll understand, the proponent will have a performative fit of the vapours and have you ostracised.

And if you don't understand and question, or worse, fall into their bear trap, the proponent will have a performative fit of the vapours and have you ostracised.

It's the postmodern "Heads I win, tails you lose!"

None of this is "experimental", it's all completely on trend bs. I don't think most arts councils would recognize something really experimental or original or counter-cultural if they fell over it. Although I will say, I think the idea that the arts are meant to be about experimental and counter-cultural ideas is quite over-blown.

And it doesn't just happen to be the case this doctor is nb, that's part of the package they are selling.

If I were a cynical person I'd suggest that for someone who wanted a career in the arts right now, magicking up some kind of special identity group to belong to would be a great career move. There are all kinds of funding streams available for people who are centering their work around gender, and it seems every artist profile I read these days, be it in the visual arts, music, theater, etc, says "So-and-so is a queer (insert other identities here) person who is passionate about (insert pet activist cause here.)

Remember the Arts Council lost an employment tribunal because their turned out to be bullying, misogynistic, homophobic bigots who couldn’t tolerate anyone with different beliefs and were determined to remove grants from those that didn’t promote gender ideology.

Someone can identify as non-binary, they can have a belief in gender identity, but can they actually be non-binary? What is it that makes someone non-binary such that they are not the same as any other person who just lives without such an ideological belief?

So someone identifying as non-binary and not actually even referencing it in the context of a performance is ‘obsesssion’.

Thanks for confirming that you just don’t think anyone who is non-binary should be presenting to kids irrespective of whether they mention their gender identity or not.

Yeah. This is part of the reason the arts are producing such weak pish at the moment.

This is exactly the point!

Is there any mention of the workshops around / aimed at disability? Older people? Race? Religion?
Or is it that (as usual) there's a particular focus on targeting children as a group out of all the other possible protected characteristics ? If so, why is this?

I don’t understand that either

@OldCrone ”Sometimes I have to take a minute to understand what that means to help people understand…” says the “doctor” 🤷‍♀️ I could take the rest of my life trying to understand what the doctor means and I still wouldn’t get it precisely because it has no meaning. This is why I would keep small children away.

I think that is precisely the point. Confuse children about gender and get them on the trans train. More validation for adults. This person self describes as an activist, so this aim isn't even hidden.

Gender activists should be nowhere near children.

This is what I mean.

I don't want to be a man, but I appreciate masculine/masc attributes, so the term trans non-binary fits. Sometimes I have to take a moment to think about what that means to help people understand - to me, it makes perfect sense - but when you try to explain it to people, it can be hard for people to understand. I'm trans because my gender doesn't match what I was assigned at birth, but I also have no gender, so I'm non-binary. I'm trans non-binary.

https://www.suvera.org.uk/team-blog/dr-ronx

Also this.

Working in healthcare, I was fortunate because people called me "Doctor", so I wasn't really ever gendered at work. Still, when I was, it didn't sit comfortably with me. When I say gendered, I mean people calling me both she/her or he/him - neither of them sat well with me. I never really understood why, but I knew I had a visceral repulsion to those words being my pronouns.

I think someone who had a "visceral repulsion" to people noticing their sex needed therapy, not to be put on TV where they can 'take their whole self to work' and influence children with their unhealthy obsession about gender and stereotyping.

If it is making a profit of over £32 million then why does it need any grant?

To be trans you started life as one sex and have transitioned to the other.
To be non binary you don’t feel you fit into either sexes so live your life in between.

Not exactly.

To be trans you want to pretend to be the opposite sex.

To be non binary you want to pretend that you don't have a sex.

But I agree that you can't simultaneously pretend not to have a sex and to be the opposite sex.

Hello, I'm Dr. Patatras, a fertile Catholic heterosexual female of childbearing age. And I'm here to objectively talk about the human body.
All references to clownfish and temples are my own.

Yup, sounds ridiculous.

And no, women do not have comprehension issues around sums given to whole organisations.

I don’t want to be insulting but I genuinely do not understand how you can be trans and non binary.

To be trans you started life as one sex and have transitioned to the other.
To be non binary you don’t feel you fit into either sexes so live your life in between.
How can you be both? And if the answer is that some days you feel more like the opposite sex to your birth sex and on those days are trans - well isn’t that all non binary people?

Dr Ronx is a trans non binary emergency medicine doctor. [Google is your friend].

A medical person who pretends not to know whether they are male or female, should not be teaching this nonsense to kids.

Where is the obsession? I had a look at the South Bank Centre website and didn’t see a single reference to their gender identity. It sounds like the obsession is entirely with those who want to invent reasons to be outraged.

Or do you just think any trans or non-binary person should not be allowed to perform or present in front of children?

Couldn’t agree more. And I don’t understand what “trans non-binary” means and why it’s relevant to the person’s performance for children - unless he or she is planning to thoroughly confuse five year olds.

I don't love what I've seen of Dr Ronx but they are a talented presenter.

I don't think someone so obsessed by gender stereotypes should be in a position where they can influence children.

Lionel Shriver seems to be becoming a rent a quote for the Torygraph. Hope she gets paid at least.

The Southbank earns well over twice that grant back (used to be 3x before covid) as well as providing over 350 jobs, alongside all the other businesses in the area that benefit. They should experiment, that's what they're for. I don't love what I've seen of Dr Ronx but they are a talented presenter.