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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions
SquirrelSoShiny · 14/12/2023 22:24

EllaMenopee · 14/12/2023 22:23

I've said it before and I'll say it again, thank fuck for Donal O'Shea. Ditto Paul Moran. Also very glad to see a piece of this length and breadth on the subject on RTÉ. It's very unusual for them to be even vaguely critical (as in thinking rather than condemnation) on these issues.

Yes I'm actually worried that it will be heavily edited by the morning!

EllaMenopee · 14/12/2023 22:23

I've said it before and I'll say it again, thank fuck for Donal O'Shea. Ditto Paul Moran. Also very glad to see a piece of this length and breadth on the subject on RTÉ. It's very unusual for them to be even vaguely critical (as in thinking rather than condemnation) on these issues.

SquirrelSoShiny · 14/12/2023 22:20

I agree @Helleofabore it's extraordinary that this individual doesn't seem to understand that surgery on genitals might well impact on sexual function.

Of course they probably don't care about autistic teenage girls losing sexual function. After all, the middle aged men tend to carefully avoid mutilating THEIR sexual organs! Luckily thanks to Self ID they can have it all! Access to female spaces with a fully functional Penis! It's a win win for transwomen!

Helleofabore · 14/12/2023 21:58

Thanks for posting this. It shows just how ideologically based those who reject exploratory therapy are.

here is one part of the article:

“Ní Féineadh says the exploratory Model of Care supported by Dr Moran and Prof O’Shea can be invasive and stigmatising.”

“"I attend a regular transgender support group, and I hear people describe the interviews that they have had, the four-hour assessment that they've had. I've heard them describe that in tears," said Ms Ní Féineadh.
For adults to be referred for gender confirmation surgery in Ireland through the NGS, up to three further interviews can take place, she said.
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"Those are very in-depth, and they talk in very specific and graphic detail about your sex life, what sex acts you enjoy, and how the surgery is going to impact those…That depth of conversation is unnecessary."

"What other medical procedure do you have multiple in-depth interviews before you proceed with it? Do you have an in-depth interview with a clinical psychologist before you get an appendectomy?" she asked, describing as a "pathologising of transgender healthcare."

Is this person so lacking in the ability to understand anatomy? Doctors are checking understanding of a surgical patients knowledge of the procedure they are being asked to approve. Surgery on genitals! Obviously it hasn’t occurred to this person that surgery on genitals will dramatically impact someone’s sex life. Even a double mastectomy will remove a female erogenous zone.

I cannot believe the paucity of thought in what this person said. It is almost devoid of thought.