“How many times have you been sexually attacked by a trans person within one of these spaces? Or how many people do you know who have been harmed by a trans person in any of these spaces? You are statistically far more likely to be attacked by another AFAB woman than by a trans woman in these spaces.”
Your logic is flawed.
Plus you rely on traumatised women and girls to be in a position to answer you for you to have to reconsider your luxury view. One where you have prioritised a male person’s demands over the needs of female people. So, your line of questioning is that until enough women or girls answer you personally that they have been ‘attacked’, you will scold and attempt to shame women who choose to protect all female people first. Good to know.
i believe that you need to consider risk and potential risk and harm over reported incidents. Your position attempts to minimise the risk based on falsity. I am not sure that you, personally, have thought this through. Maybe you are just repeating what you have seen others attempt to use to defend an indefensible demand for inclusion. Maybe you have thought through all the aspects and you wish to still prioritise male demands over female needs.
Firstly, the comparator is all male people. Not just a subset of male people as your points attempt to separate out. Please provide evidence to support this separation from the general male population if you want to position those male people as being less of a risk of committing sex offenses as others.
To be clear, please provide links to studies and verified statistics that a male at any point of transition, has a lower propensity of committing sex and /or violent crime than a male person.
If you cannot do this, you are arguing to support any male person over about 8, accessing vulnerable female people and you should accept that your argument increases the risk of those female people being harmed. However, it is not just about ‘being attacked’.
Secondly, it is about the loss of privacy and dignity of all female people in spaces they expect and need to be private. Including those who need those spaces to be reliably female only due to religious reasons. Where does your insistence leave those women? And can I point out that those women and children genuinely are some of the most marginalised and vulnerable in the UK. Your sentiments have now forced them to self exclude from wider participation in public life.
Same too for the many, many women and girls who have been “attacked” by a male perpetrator. Who don’t want come into a space where they get undressed knowing a male person is in that facility with them. That they may encounter that person with male cues coming into or out of the facility is distressing. Some have already reported to us that they are now also self excluding from wider public life.
Female people use toilets, for instance, for many other reasons than just ‘peeing’ and deserve to be able to use these toilets without the male gaze. Because these moments may be humiliating and you understand that maybe another female will at least understand inherently. And might even have been in that exact situation.
Such as drying off shirts while standing half undressed. Food or baby vomit or exploding breast leaks is just the start. I spent a couple of years with a pushchair so laden with bags and shopping they were jammed in the door of toilet cubicles. I was fully visible to people walking by while dealing with flooding periods and a cranky child. I have had to take my elderly mother to a normal cubicle due to the disabled toilet being out of order, have you ever had to do this? The choice is to leave the wheelchair jamming the door open or let her fall off the toilet. Or maybe she shouldn’t have a day out because she, a victim of domestic abuse, expects not to have to have her body exposed to a male person?
There is also a fast growing porn category of male people masturbating in toilet cubicles in female toilets. Complete with them fondling their artificially enhanced breasts. The evidence of which is not hard to find at all. It is out there. It used to be all over Twitter. The harm to women and children include them being used (even if they are unaware) to fuel fantasies of these male people. Indeed, prominent trans people have even mocked women for their toilet habits and noises women make on the toilet on Twitter in recent years. Who fucking does that?
So, it is not limited to the need to not be ‘attacked’.