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GC Feminism and Gaza/Israel

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auberginefortea · 14/12/2023 03:17

I haven't seen a thread on this yet, and I'm genuinely interested to understand the intersection between different political stances. Where do most posters in this forum stand on Israel/Palestine?

From what I've seen, Julie Bindel has taken quite a strong stance in supporting Israel on Twitter/X. The TRAs I've seen seem to be a lot more pro Gaza/Palestine and anti-Israel.

Is there an intersection between views on gender and Israel/Palestine?

Personally, I'm GC (though not especially strident, more bemused and baffled) and my sympathies naturally lie with Israel (I'm a zionist in that I believe in Jewish State), but I also worry that Israel is going too far.

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Kitanai · 14/12/2023 06:29

Only personal experience, but there definitely seems to be an intersection between those who have been known to blindly chant ‘kill terfs’ and those who now blindly chant ‘from the river to the sea’.

Starting to think they are just impotently angry little twerps looking for any chance to join a herd and hate something.

ChaToilLeam · 14/12/2023 06:13

I’m a GC feminist and my sympathies are with Israel. As a woman I know where I’d be best off in the Middle East. The whole “Queers for Palestine” thing is laughable, they wouldn’t last 5 minutes there.

Hamas must be eradicated for the good of everyone, they don’t care how many Palestinian lives are lost in their quest to destroy Israel and Jews.

DifficultBloodyWoman · 14/12/2023 06:04

I don’t think there is much of an intersection do I don’t expect all GC feminists to agree on non-GC issues.

That said, I’m pretty sure all feminists are outraged at the use of rape and sexual torture as a weapon of war.

Women always suffer in war. We are just ‘collateral damage’ to the men waging war.

ARockIsASlowSlowCooledOffFlameAndACradle · 14/12/2023 06:00

I'm not sure Julie Bindel is a Zionist. I think she has a particular concern with student politics and its groupthink, public shamings, thought terminating cliches &c. Left-wing student politics has had an intense preoccupation with Israel / Palestine for longer than I've been alive.

PriOn1 · 14/12/2023 03:45

My personal feeling is that all wars are awful for women and I suspect that both sides are being driven to fight by arrogant and violent men. I don’t see any sign that one side has right on their side or that either side is fighting for justice. I don’t think the conflict should ever have occurred, but those who started the process are long dead and those alive now should be looking for a way to resolve the mess their forebears made and find a way to peace.