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Germaine Greer

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Coolstorysis · 12/12/2023 15:05

I recently saw clip of her on reddit from the 70s I think, where the presenter was so condescending and sexist. She handled it magnificently and I was reminded how great she is .

Anyone have any good discussions/videos to share?

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AdamRyan · 12/12/2023 20:48

SleepyRooster · 12/12/2023 20:35

I mean she's a goddess. We will miss her when she's gone. Where are the Germaines of 2023?

Julie Bindel is a contender I reckon

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 12/12/2023 20:42

She'd have been banned on MN, I reckon.

Female Eunuch is a great book.

SleepyRooster · 12/12/2023 20:35

I mean she's a goddess. We will miss her when she's gone. Where are the Germaines of 2023?

AdamRyan · 12/12/2023 19:52

She's also done some amazing things on ecology and rewilding that I really admire

AdamRyan · 12/12/2023 19:51

Anyway I love her. Here's a recent quote:

What everybody has accepted is the idea of equality feminism,” Greer told an audience of about 500 people at the Kathleen Fitzpatrick Theatre for the International Women’s Day 'Event “It will change nothing. War is made against civilian populations where women and children are the principal casualties in places like Syria, whether in collapsing buildings or bombed schools. War is now completely made by the rich with their extraordinary killing machines, killing the poor who have no comeback. Women are drawing level with men in this profoundly destructive world that we live in and, as far as I’m concerned, it’s the wrong way. We’re getting nowhere."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/books/2017/mar/09/equality-is-a-profoundly-conservative-goal-for-women-germaine-greer-says

Equality is a 'profoundly conservative goal' for women, Germaine Greer says

Speaking at the launch of her archive at the University of Melbourne, the feminist author says women need to achieve more than simply drawing level with men

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/books/2017/mar/09/equality-is-a-profoundly-conservative-goal-for-women-germaine-greer-says

AdamRyan · 12/12/2023 19:45

Yeah she got absolutely pulverised for that and I think she was somewhat misinterpreted.
I've also suffered some abuse that some people might call rape (coercive sex, sleep sex) and it took me ages to even admit it (still not 100% comfortable tbh).
I'd certainly rather not be dead. I do think there is a certain misogyny in making out rape is equivalent to murder, it almost gives men more power. That's not to say it isn't traumatic but we can survive it Flowers

Coolstorysis · 12/12/2023 18:16

Oh golly circumferances, I'm so sorry, I did not mean that it wasn't traumatic. I meant that for adult women, the offense is given an elevated status just below murder, like it is somehow worse than beating someone almost to death. Its really difficult to explain but I grom her.

I'm so sorry if I caused offence.

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Circumferences · 12/12/2023 17:46

I'm sorry you experienced rape.

My dad use to rape me from when I was 4yo to about 9yo but I never knew he was doing it because it gave me trauma amnesia every time.
The memories resurfaced in my twenties. I've suffered mental health issues my entire life. I'm actually hoping to send him to prison, I've already taken the first steps.

I think some women (and children) suffer extreme trauma from rape. It's not just "bad sex" as GG says. I think she has a massive empathy blind spot when it comes to rape.

Coolstorysis · 12/12/2023 16:54

Been watching some of her and I actually agree with her stance on rape. I have been raped myself but I agree that it's not an elevated crime akin to murder. I know that it has consequences above and beyond the Immediate act, but I'd rather be raped non violently than be beaten within an inch of my life.

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Flufferblub · 12/12/2023 16:35

I like the cut of her jib

WhickDittington · 12/12/2023 16:15

I love her, in all her contradictions and complexities. She has such a magnificent mind.

FestiveAuntFanny · 12/12/2023 15:56

Shows how far we have fallen that Kirsty Walk talking herself sounds shocking because she's rightfully referring to men as he and not, as she would do today, as she