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It's started in Irish dancing too. 14 year old trans child wins world qualifying event

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Greyheart1 · 11/12/2023 23:32

https://tennesseestar.com/news/parents-outraged-after-trans-identifying-boy-wins-girls-irish-dancing-competition-heads-to-worlds/admin/2023/12/10/

This means that the girl outside the qualifying spots in the U14 competition has missed out on her chance to dance at the world championships next year.
Devestating. It is an extremely expensive sport.

Parents Outraged After Trans-Identifying Boy Wins Girls' Irish Dancing Competition, Heads to Worlds - Tennessee Star

A teenage boy who identifies as a girl is heading to the Irish Dancing World Championships after placing first in the U14 2023 Southern Region Oireachtas competitions.

https://tennesseestar.com/news/parents-outraged-after-trans-identifying-boy-wins-girls-irish-dancing-competition-heads-to-worlds/admin/2023/12/10

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crumpet · 12/12/2023 07:59

Soontobe60 · 12/12/2023 06:42

If it’s a competition just for girls, then fair enough. In reality though it sounds like an elitist ‘sport’ where only people with enough money can afford for their child to partake. I’d be fighting to make it a much more accessible activity. £2k for a dress!!!

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are you suggesting that expensive sports shouldn’t be single sex?

pro tennis racquets, bicycles, cricket bats, golf clubs - you could easily spend more than the cost of the dresses. Are all these sports (and others) which should be mixed sex?

bellac11 · 12/12/2023 07:57

The petition should have been called 'single sex', not single gender, although Im guessing thats the one that got deleted?

WishIMite · 12/12/2023 07:53

Hmm Irish dancing looks like drag anyway to me… makes me a bit uncomfortable tbh. Not surprising it attracts people who might otherwise do drag…!

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Greyheart1 · 12/12/2023 07:49

@MidWineCent at the top level world champ level they are indeed 2k. My dd danced for years. Then factor in wigs, shoes, tan, make up, travel. It's insanely expensive.

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Greyheart1 · 12/12/2023 07:47

Waiting for the Daily Mail to pick this up. I see this morning Gript has it on their facebook page. The comments say it all really.
Awful that a poor girl has missed out on her chance to compete at the world championships.
However again the organisation Clrg is at fault & is standing by its decision stating inclusivity.

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MidWineCent · 12/12/2023 07:46

Greyheart1 · 11/12/2023 23:45

The cost of it for the poor girls & parents. I feel so sorry for the girl who can't go to the world championships now. The dresses alone are 2,000 quid. It's an absolute disgrace that it's come to this. But you are absolutely correct the child did compete with the organisation Clrg rules. Until rules change this will continue to happen.

Not quite that much. I've a friend who is a single parent and on a teacher's salary is able to afford the costumes for her daughter.

Villagetoraiseachild · 12/12/2023 07:42

Jesus Mary and Joseph, is nothing sacred?

BlackeyedSusan · 12/12/2023 07:18

So sorry for all those dancers displaced. Glad to hear that parents and girls know it is unfair. Shame they can't speak out publicly. (Not them, the rules that mean they will be penalised if they do)

Needmoresleep · 12/12/2023 06:48

Surely what the dress costs is a red herring.

A girl is missing out in a girl’s competition because a boy has entered and won. It’s the same issue if the dresses came from Asda.

Soontobe60 · 12/12/2023 06:42

Greyheart1 · 11/12/2023 23:45

The cost of it for the poor girls & parents. I feel so sorry for the girl who can't go to the world championships now. The dresses alone are 2,000 quid. It's an absolute disgrace that it's come to this. But you are absolutely correct the child did compete with the organisation Clrg rules. Until rules change this will continue to happen.

If it’s a competition just for girls, then fair enough. In reality though it sounds like an elitist ‘sport’ where only people with enough money can afford for their child to partake. I’d be fighting to make it a much more accessible activity. £2k for a dress!!!

ArthurbellaScott · 12/12/2023 06:37

So there were 2 petitions - one calling for 'single gender competition', one to 'support trans Irish dancers'.

On had 4k signatures, one had 1k.

Seems one has been deleted.

Guess which one?

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Greyheart1 · 11/12/2023 23:45

The cost of it for the poor girls & parents. I feel so sorry for the girl who can't go to the world championships now. The dresses alone are 2,000 quid. It's an absolute disgrace that it's come to this. But you are absolutely correct the child did compete with the organisation Clrg rules. Until rules change this will continue to happen.

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nocoolnamesleft · 11/12/2023 23:40

I would absolutely believe that the increased leg strength from a male puberty would be a significant and unfair advantage. The individual competed within the rules. Those who made those rules are to blame for this travesty.