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So what constitutes an "exceptional circumstance" then?

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Tacotortoise · 08/12/2023 08:38

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-67613441

After much mature reflection the Scottish government have now decided that women's prisons are not the place for trans women with a history of harming women. Yay!

...except in "exceptional circumstances ". Not yay.

So can anyone please tell me, what are the exceptional circumstances in which it would be reasonable even to consider sending a rapist or abuser of women to a women's prison?

I can't think of a single one. Which makes me wonder why these weasel words were included at all. Is it to appease trans activists? Or to leave a loophole to carry on as normal? And why don't the press in Scotland ask?

Isla Bryson

Trans women inmates who hurt females to go to male prisons

New guidance bans trans women who have been convicted of hurting females from women's prisons in most circumstances.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-67613441

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guinnessguzzler · 08/12/2023 09:13

But seriously, it is horrendous. Life is all about choices. You choose to go about raping and sexually abusing, sorry, no, you don't get to dictate which prison you go to. I do believe even the most serious offenders should be protected from violence where possible but of course that includes women prisoners, who deserve safety and dignity just like the men. TW do not belong in women's prisons under any circumstances. If they also don't belong in men's prisons then a different option must be found.

Crankywiddershins · 08/12/2023 09:08

guinnessguzzler · 08/12/2023 09:05

When they're not 'at it'. No matter his future role in public life, Humza Yousaf will always be on hand to proclaim his judgement of 'at it' or 'not at it'. What happens when he eventually shuffles off this mortal coil? Presumably the role passes to his eldest child, or a new proclaimer is elected with a billow of rainbow smoke announcing when the decision has been made.

Ah, that must be it. Pope Hamza of the church of gender souls?

guinnessguzzler · 08/12/2023 09:05

When they're not 'at it'. No matter his future role in public life, Humza Yousaf will always be on hand to proclaim his judgement of 'at it' or 'not at it'. What happens when he eventually shuffles off this mortal coil? Presumably the role passes to his eldest child, or a new proclaimer is elected with a billow of rainbow smoke announcing when the decision has been made.

RaininginDarling · 08/12/2023 09:02

Crankywiddershins · 08/12/2023 08:57

Maybe it's the circumstances where no one makes it public and they can do it under the radar?
Or the ones that don't own pink leggings?
They're the best I've got.

THIS!

Rainbowshit · 08/12/2023 08:58

Crankywiddershins · 08/12/2023 08:57

Maybe it's the circumstances where no one makes it public and they can do it under the radar?
Or the ones that don't own pink leggings?
They're the best I've got.

This. ^^

Crankywiddershins · 08/12/2023 08:57

Maybe it's the circumstances where no one makes it public and they can do it under the radar?
Or the ones that don't own pink leggings?
They're the best I've got.

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