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InThePottingShed · 2023-12-07T17:17:59+00:00

[[https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/23975679.landmark-court-ruling-holyrood-gender-reform-veto-due-tomorrow/ Herald article]]

GoatsareGOAT · 08/12/2023 12:22

Oh thank fuck I've been feeling sick about this all morning.

Loads more bloody money wasted by the idiotic SNP

GrouchyKiwi · 08/12/2023 12:22

Thank fuck. I had such a sick feeling this morning. So relieved.

Helleofabore · 08/12/2023 12:20

nauticant · 08/12/2023 12:12

Stonewall:

We’re disappointed that the Court of Session in Scotland has found in favour of the UK Government’s unprecedented decision to use Section 35 to block the Gender Recognition Reform Bill from Royal Assent. This Bill was one of the most debated in the Scottish Parliament’s history and was passed by a resounding majority of MSPs drawn from all major Scottish parties.

This unfortunately means more uncertainty for trans people in Scotland, who will now be waiting once again, to see whether they will be able to have their gender legally recognised through a process that is in line with leading nations like Ireland, Canada and New Zealand.

Whatever happens next in discussions with the UK and Scottish Governments on this matter, Stonewall will continue to press all administrations to make progress on LGBTQ+ rights in line with leading international practice.

To repeat what was said in a recent session of parliament, 'Stonewall do not make the law in the UK', my paraphrasing. I would even go so far as to say that their track record recently has shown that they have tried their hardest to make people believe the law says what Stonewall wants the law to say. And when you look at who advises them on law, who even fucking wrote the book about trans law in the UK, you begin to understand that the members of Stonewall have been very poorly served by their legal advisory team.

I take anything that Stonewall says now about law and government process with a truckload of salt.

MichelleScarn · 08/12/2023 12:19

Thank Fuck!! Is there a weeping an gnashing of teeth yet?!

Hoardasurass · 08/12/2023 12:16

JellySaurus · 08/12/2023 12:11

I am certain that this is exactly the reason the fingertip feminist chose this hill to die on.

She doesn't give a monkey's for women, children or even trans people. The only ideology she believes in is Scottish independence at all cost.

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I have to disagree with you about independence all she cares about is making a name for herself as a progressive to get that lucrative un job

Helleofabore · 08/12/2023 12:15

Woo hoo!

SerpentEndBench · 08/12/2023 12:12

Omg tfft.

PronounssheRa · 08/12/2023 12:12

I was sure they would lose and I can't believe they wasted money on this.

The SNP will probably sell this as westminster denying the will of the Scottish people though.

nauticant · 08/12/2023 12:12

Stonewall:

We’re disappointed that the Court of Session in Scotland has found in favour of the UK Government’s unprecedented decision to use Section 35 to block the Gender Recognition Reform Bill from Royal Assent. This Bill was one of the most debated in the Scottish Parliament’s history and was passed by a resounding majority of MSPs drawn from all major Scottish parties.

This unfortunately means more uncertainty for trans people in Scotland, who will now be waiting once again, to see whether they will be able to have their gender legally recognised through a process that is in line with leading nations like Ireland, Canada and New Zealand.

Whatever happens next in discussions with the UK and Scottish Governments on this matter, Stonewall will continue to press all administrations to make progress on LGBTQ+ rights in line with leading international practice.

JellySaurus · 08/12/2023 12:11

thatsnotmywean · 08/12/2023 07:53

Either result suits the SNP agenda -

a win = big bad westminster can't tell us what to do.
a lose = big bad westminster are telling us what to do

I am certain that this is exactly the reason the fingertip feminist chose this hill to die on.

She doesn't give a monkey's for women, children or even trans people. The only ideology she believes in is Scottish independence at all cost.

Boiledbeetle · 08/12/2023 12:08

Oh wonderful!

ArthurbellaScott · 08/12/2023 12:06

Thank FUCK

ArthurbellaScott · 08/12/2023 12:06

Scotgov lost

nauticant · 08/12/2023 11:39

KPSS currently have a Twitter space discussing this:

https://twitter.com/XXtraordinary1/status/1733088394798903351

Boiledbeetle · 08/12/2023 10:56

I'm currently trying to do something else but I'm failing miserably as I can't concentrate!

Kucinghitam · 08/12/2023 10:55

I'm keeping my fingers crossed for a ruling based on material reality, but fuck knows anymore.

ArthurbellaScott · 08/12/2023 10:32

12pm announcement, apparently.

Datun · 08/12/2023 10:17

Placemarking

WatchingBoat · 08/12/2023 10:03

Any idea what time they’ll announce?

thatsnotmywean · 08/12/2023 07:53

Either result suits the SNP agenda -

a win = big bad westminster can't tell us what to do.
a lose = big bad westminster are telling us what to do

ArthurbellaScott · 08/12/2023 07:43

Oh god. Yes feeling queasy.

If Westminster lose, on top of the upcoming Hate Crime Bill ...

Scotland is tumbling into some chaotic, clownworld dystopia I don't want to be part of.

pickledandpuzzled · 08/12/2023 07:20

Lordy. The money wasted on similar cases around the world. Fancy going to court to prove the world is flat.

BettyFilous · 08/12/2023 07:14

If the judgement finds in favour of the UK govt, does that block the Welsh govt’s plans for self-ID too?

stealtheatingtunnocks · 07/12/2023 23:20

Me too. Humza must be busy tonight trying to work out the spin, either way he’ll have a hard press day tomorrow.

Waitwhat23 · 07/12/2023 22:42

I'm crossing everything for this one.

Will be feverishly checking my phone during the scarce moments I can tomorrow.