Re a bit of light reading

I'm in the middle of that at the moment, some bits are not light reading, but generally quite interesting. I think Judith Butler's writing is so confusing it infects anyone who writes about it as well.

Hi @stomachameleon I saw you on the Miners Strike thread, thanks for posting on there, it was important that you did.

I lurked for years on here. Then I realised the regulars know the difference between someone asking genuine questions, and those who are here to cause botherations.

Some great suggestions. Dip in and out. Take your time. Join in and discuss.

There are no exams to pass, no need to sound as though you've swallowed a dictionary, just be yourself and welcome!

Not reading but I'd search out Amy Sousa on YouTube! She breaks things down clearly but deeply from a feminist perspective with an emphasis on embodiment.

@stomachameleon If you fancy humour with your reading them there is of course two wonderful books of sweary poetry written by some of the women of Mumsnets FWR board which cover quite a lot of events that have happened over the last 12 months!

Under the Duvet of Darkness
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0C129WKDD

Under the Duvet of Darkness volume two Lurking Merkins
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0CMJZ43VZ

Invisible Women by Caroline Criado Perez. Not specifically about trans issues, but a good explanation of how the erasure of women is normalised as part of society.

Oh and if you're a fan of podcasts I recently discovered 'Mother, Maiden, Matriach' by Louise Perry, she has some fabulous guests on amd talks all things feminism and gender in a really reasoned and questioning manner.

Also 'the Witchtrials of JK Rowling' is a great listen, charting her route to 'terfhood'

Book-wise Material Girls by Kathleen Stock is a good place to start!

Also I follow a few people on substack that are actively researching/talking about trans ideology and find their perspectives really insightful, these two are my recommendations -

• Eliza Mondegreen is looking at online trans communities and how they influence young girls, and she does a regular book club and reading recommendations

• PITT - Parents with Inconvenient Truths about Trans. This one is heartbreaking at times, but also interesting and insightful to read parents with trans children reflect on how their situation came to be

Feminism itself is a bloody huge subject, tbh. Lots of other women are better read and informed than me, but there is loads on the net.

Lots of different angles, subjects and approaches, lots of disagreement. You could look into the following:

Mary Wollstonecroft https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/3420
Simone de Beauvoir - The Second Sex
Germaine Greer - The FEmale Eunuch, Whole Woman
Andrea Dworkin
bell hooks
Dale Spender

TBH I've learned more from anonymous women on here than any other source.

So there is a first, second, third and perhaps even fourth wave of feminism.

This is good on a brief and entertaining history of genderism up until about 2018:

https://janeclarejones.com/2018/11/13/the-annals-of-the-terf-wars/

Time To Think by Hannah Barnes about the scandal that is the Tavistock is excellent.

Trans by Helen Joyce gives the background of how we got to where we are.

They would be my starting points, there’s loads more.

Hey, OP.

This thread is good on 'gender' and sex:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/3145470-Break-it-down-for-me