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Nick Fletcher tells Gillian Keegan some home truths

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InThePottingShed · 06/12/2023 11:19

This morning at the Education Select Committee. Well done Nick!

CFW will have the whole section on their YouTube channel soon.

Part of Nick's contribution

https://twitter.com/CforWomenUK/status/1732357309085438049

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LoobiJee · 06/12/2023 16:14

Tallisker · 06/12/2023 13:07

She has just said that puberty blockers are only given to adults and cannot be offered to children, she hasn't a clue. Why would you give puberty blockers to someone who has long completed puberty? Beggars belief.

I should probably watch more just in case I've jumped the gun here

So Gillian Keegan has misled Parliament?

Or was she confusing puberty blockers with cross-sex hormones?

WickedSerious · 06/12/2023 15:38

Tallisker · 06/12/2023 13:07

She has just said that puberty blockers are only given to adults and cannot be offered to children, she hasn't a clue. Why would you give puberty blockers to someone who has long completed puberty? Beggars belief.

I should probably watch more just in case I've jumped the gun here

She doesn't seem all that well informed,the waffle is strong in this one.

Froodwithatowel · 06/12/2023 15:04

Tallisker · 06/12/2023 13:07

She has just said that puberty blockers are only given to adults and cannot be offered to children, she hasn't a clue. Why would you give puberty blockers to someone who has long completed puberty? Beggars belief.

I should probably watch more just in case I've jumped the gun here

You honestly wonder if the lines they parrot actually pass through their brain at all on their way from the paper in front of them to their mouths.

It's baffling that people with so little apparent capacity are in positions of power.

Truthlikeness · 06/12/2023 13:58

Tallisker · 06/12/2023 13:07

She has just said that puberty blockers are only given to adults and cannot be offered to children, she hasn't a clue. Why would you give puberty blockers to someone who has long completed puberty? Beggars belief.

I should probably watch more just in case I've jumped the gun here

that bit jumped out to me too, especially in the light of the recent report that puberty blockers have doubled in use for children since the Case Review.

ResisterRex · 06/12/2023 13:12

Froodwithatowel · 06/12/2023 12:20

If it's all non statutory non binding optional fluffy guidance that does help but doesn't do anything drastic like helping....

I'm increasingly thinking heavy paperwork needs to be required to socially transition a pupil, all signed, named staff, copies filed with the LA, a big process with a lot of practical accountability for the adults involved. Considering how much bumph has to be filled out to take six children to the park across the road for ten minutes in a lesson, or to get additional staffing support for a child with serious SEND why is this taken so much less seriously? The paperwork burden would slow this down, the accountability might make adults think, the process and requirement of evidencing how that decision was reached and signed to say the adults involved have considered the risks and possible negative impacts might make adults a bit less keen to rush into this. And the paperwork would then provide the necessary evidence for the kid to later sue the living daylights out of the people and authority involved if they come to regret the situation they were helped into.

Considering how some of these kids may come to be affected, the compensation involved may not just be a gesture, it may be badly needed income for someone made too ill and incapacitated before they reached adulthood to be able to earn a living.

Edited

Quite. Or the faff if you need nursery / school to administer antibiotics.

Yet transing gay kids? Have at it.

Tallisker · 06/12/2023 13:07

She has just said that puberty blockers are only given to adults and cannot be offered to children, she hasn't a clue. Why would you give puberty blockers to someone who has long completed puberty? Beggars belief.

I should probably watch more just in case I've jumped the gun here

BonfireLady · 06/12/2023 12:55

Froodwithatowel · 06/12/2023 12:20

If it's all non statutory non binding optional fluffy guidance that does help but doesn't do anything drastic like helping....

I'm increasingly thinking heavy paperwork needs to be required to socially transition a pupil, all signed, named staff, copies filed with the LA, a big process with a lot of practical accountability for the adults involved. Considering how much bumph has to be filled out to take six children to the park across the road for ten minutes in a lesson, or to get additional staffing support for a child with serious SEND why is this taken so much less seriously? The paperwork burden would slow this down, the accountability might make adults think, the process and requirement of evidencing how that decision was reached and signed to say the adults involved have considered the risks and possible negative impacts might make adults a bit less keen to rush into this. And the paperwork would then provide the necessary evidence for the kid to later sue the living daylights out of the people and authority involved if they come to regret the situation they were helped into.

Considering how some of these kids may come to be affected, the compensation involved may not just be a gesture, it may be badly needed income for someone made too ill and incapacitated before they reached adulthood to be able to earn a living.

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An excellent point.

Sadly, I suspect that a lot of this is going to end up this way. We're currently still sleepwalking in to the medical scandal, but at some point in the near to mid future there will be a tipping point as the detransitioners become more numerous and less easy for the news organisations to ignore.

Froodwithatowel · 06/12/2023 12:20

If it's all non statutory non binding optional fluffy guidance that does help but doesn't do anything drastic like helping....

I'm increasingly thinking heavy paperwork needs to be required to socially transition a pupil, all signed, named staff, copies filed with the LA, a big process with a lot of practical accountability for the adults involved. Considering how much bumph has to be filled out to take six children to the park across the road for ten minutes in a lesson, or to get additional staffing support for a child with serious SEND why is this taken so much less seriously? The paperwork burden would slow this down, the accountability might make adults think, the process and requirement of evidencing how that decision was reached and signed to say the adults involved have considered the risks and possible negative impacts might make adults a bit less keen to rush into this. And the paperwork would then provide the necessary evidence for the kid to later sue the living daylights out of the people and authority involved if they come to regret the situation they were helped into.

Considering how some of these kids may come to be affected, the compensation involved may not just be a gesture, it may be badly needed income for someone made too ill and incapacitated before they reached adulthood to be able to earn a living.

FrancescaContini · 06/12/2023 12:18

Thank you for telling it how it is - “damaging noise” and for the emphasis on safeguarding children, Nick.

I couldn’t help but notice the young woman in the background trying to hide a smile as she taps on her keyboard and takes sips of water. I wonder why she’s smiling…

Froodwithatowel · 06/12/2023 12:11

Well said Nick Fletcher.

InThePottingShed · 06/12/2023 12:01

Full segment on the guidance now here:

CFW23.12.06EducationSelectCommitteeSchoolsGuidance

https://youtu.be/ZFIzjetDxOw

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WickedSerious · 06/12/2023 11:47

Well said that man.

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