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Trans harassment case thrown out by tribunal

59 replies

SamW98 · 05/12/2023 19:30

Common sense prevails this time but how do these ridiculous grievances ever get as far as they do?

Unless there’s huge gaps in the story, it’s absolutely plain to anyone that there’s nothing to see here.

Trans woman's harassment case against the local authority thrown out

Mandie Monroe caused 'confusion' soon after joining the authority because her name on the rota was Mandie but her name on her email said Andy.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12828065/amp/Trans-woman-applied-council-job-mans-CV-harassment-case-against-local-authority-thrown-trying-sue-asking-use.html

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NigellaAwesome · 05/12/2023 21:29

So is someone who is a part-time cross dresser protected under equality laws? I thought it was someone who had been, or in the process of, or considering gender reassignment? And that gender reassignment means permanently living as a person of the opposite sex.

I'm not an expert on this, so happy to be corrected.

Fordian · 05/12/2023 21:28

Typo, sorry, 'male'.

Fordian · 05/12/2023 21:27

"A tribunal report said: 'Ms Monroe came out in April 2018 as transgender, transitioning from male to female."

How? How does a human change sex? Make and female are SEX descriptors.

It should have said "Ms (Mr??) Monroe chose to alter their gender presentation from that generally socially associated with men to that associated with women"

Hoardasurass · 05/12/2023 21:25

PurpleBugz · 05/12/2023 21:15

Concerningly it looks like it was thrown out because early on in the job they were using both Mandie and Andy. They were asked to pick one for consistency. They picked Andy for work saying Mandie was for friends. He/him at work was fine.

So it's thrown out because the idiot at the time when asked said man's name and pronouns was their preference.

It should have been thrown out because you cannot compel use of pronouns. Full stop

His claim was that merely asking the question was transphobic harassment

PurpleBugz · 05/12/2023 21:15

Concerningly it looks like it was thrown out because early on in the job they were using both Mandie and Andy. They were asked to pick one for consistency. They picked Andy for work saying Mandie was for friends. He/him at work was fine.

So it's thrown out because the idiot at the time when asked said man's name and pronouns was their preference.

It should have been thrown out because you cannot compel use of pronouns. Full stop

Tallisker · 05/12/2023 21:10

Three little letters. FFS. (actually that's only two Grin)

ArthurbellaScott · 05/12/2023 20:27

Thanks. I'll add to the court case thread.

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hellsBells246 · 05/12/2023 19:52

Link?