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Trans harassment case thrown out by tribunal

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SamW98 · 05/12/2023 19:30

Common sense prevails this time but how do these ridiculous grievances ever get as far as they do?

Unless there’s huge gaps in the story, it’s absolutely plain to anyone that there’s nothing to see here.

Trans woman's harassment case against the local authority thrown out

Mandie Monroe caused 'confusion' soon after joining the authority because her name on the rota was Mandie but her name on her email said Andy.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12828065/amp/Trans-woman-applied-council-job-mans-CV-harassment-case-against-local-authority-thrown-trying-sue-asking-use.html

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BezMills · 06/12/2023 07:04

Yes, this person is a chancer, and rightly was bunged out of court.

Soontobe60 · 06/12/2023 06:58

@shebathequeenof
”that thing” is an awful comment to make about a person - even a person with a fetish / mental health issue / delusion.
We all know people can’t change sex, that men often look foolish trying to dress as a woman, that AGPs exist. We don’t need to stoop to the gutter to get our point across.

pickledandpuzzled · 06/12/2023 06:51

@shebathequeenof calling someone a thing is not ok, and will get you deleted should someone report it.
Transphobia is not acceptable. We can honestly say that there is very little on MN, and if there were we could lose the right to discuss sex based rights as a backlash

shebathequeenof · 06/12/2023 06:27

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Tallisker · 05/12/2023 23:39

@Grimchmas @shebathequeenof @SunnieShine No! Your comments are not ok. Play the ball, not the player. Personal attacks based on looks are not acceptable. Please don't.

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Grimchmas · 05/12/2023 23:28

Just trying not to get my comments deleted @SunnieShine - I've had a few that i thought were with MN FWR rules deleted recently 🙃

SunnieShine · 05/12/2023 23:04

Grimchmas · 05/12/2023 22:58

Mandie with an ie. How cute.

Honestly look at the state of them.

State of HIM. But yes, rough as old boots.

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SamW98 · 05/12/2023 23:04

bonzaitree · 05/12/2023 22:59

Sounds like the manager was just trying to clear up confusion so that other staff members felt like they were getting name and pronouns right.

What a shame the manager was subjected to a court case. I cannot imagine the stress this would have caused them and their family.

I can imagine there were a lot of whispers in the staff room with people asking the manager wtf are we supposed to call them?

The manager takes one for the team and politely asks the question and gets accused of transphobia and harassment. Seriously years types make it impossible for people who really do suffer bullying and prejudice to get heard because they’re so busy causing drama for attention and a payout

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SamW98 · 05/12/2023 23:01

WickedSerious · 05/12/2023 22:05

He's very glamorous isn't he?

Don’t forget we can’t tell just by looking apparently 🤷‍♀️

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bonzaitree · 05/12/2023 22:59

Sounds like the manager was just trying to clear up confusion so that other staff members felt like they were getting name and pronouns right.

What a shame the manager was subjected to a court case. I cannot imagine the stress this would have caused them and their family.

Grimchmas · 05/12/2023 22:58

Mandie with an ie. How cute.

Honestly look at the state of them.

PurpleSparkledPixie · 05/12/2023 22:56

For the previous 10 years, she worked as a contractor for local authorities and County councils; also worked as an Accommodation Officer; a Hospital Discharge and Homeless Specialist Advisor, and a Housing Officer working with families and individuals with housing needs.'

That's a bit worrying. Very vulnerable people.

Ardith · 05/12/2023 22:54

Funny how it never seems to be biological women bringing these sort of court cases.

But it always seems to be biological women getting sued.

I wonder why that is.

stillplentyofjunkinthetrunk · 05/12/2023 22:44

NigellaAwesome · 05/12/2023 21:29

So is someone who is a part-time cross dresser protected under equality laws? I thought it was someone who had been, or in the process of, or considering gender reassignment? And that gender reassignment means permanently living as a person of the opposite sex.

I'm not an expert on this, so happy to be corrected.

The courts have typically taken a 'broad interpretation'

ArthurbellaScott · 05/12/2023 22:37

Precipice · 05/12/2023 22:06

If you think being called a man is harassment, why would you choose to call yourself MANdie?

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pronounsbundlebundle · 05/12/2023 22:29

I find it extremely disturbing that this person, who has shown themselves to be narcissistic and willing to deliberately cause trouble for the sake of it, has held positions dealing with vulnerable people.

I doubt this person is capable of putting other people first, or empathy.

therealcookiemonster · 05/12/2023 22:17

Precipice · 05/12/2023 22:06

If you think being called a man is harassment, why would you choose to call yourself MANdie?

😂i nearly wet myself laughing!

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SamW98 · 05/12/2023 22:17

So asking someone who uses the name Andy on his CV and emails but Mandie on the rota which he prefers to be know as is ‘transgender harassment’ according to this shameless grifter.

How do these people manage to get through the day ffs when they see transphobia in every word anyone else says?

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Boiledbeetle · 05/12/2023 22:17

IcakethereforeIam · 05/12/2023 21:55

This must have been an awful experience for the people being accused of transphobia. He's done trans people no favours at all by pulling this stunt. There will be employers who will read this article and think 'nope'.

Yeah from the sounds of it they were trying to be as sensitive as they could be to the situation!

And this is where be kind gets you!

Precipice · 05/12/2023 22:06

If you think being called a man is harassment, why would you choose to call yourself MANdie?

WickedSerious · 05/12/2023 22:05

He's very glamorous isn't he?

RoaringtoLangClegintheDark · 05/12/2023 21:59

Well I’m glad that this shameless grifter got nothing this time.

Part time cross dresser indeed. What a precedent Pips Bunce set, eh.

What a fucking world.

The good people of Bedfordshire must be so happy their council tax is being spent on defending ludicrous non-claims like this; as you say, OP, how did it ever even get this far?

ETs are quite expensive and even if you win you rarely get your costs covered - which makes me wonder if Andy had one of the well-funded trans orgs backing him on this, and so had nothing to lose.

IcakethereforeIam · 05/12/2023 21:55

This must have been an awful experience for the people being accused of transphobia. He's done trans people no favours at all by pulling this stunt. There will be employers who will read this article and think 'nope'.

User1775 · 05/12/2023 21:32

So many called Monroe....