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Trans harassment case thrown out by tribunal

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SamW98 · 05/12/2023 19:30

Common sense prevails this time but how do these ridiculous grievances ever get as far as they do?

Unless there’s huge gaps in the story, it’s absolutely plain to anyone that there’s nothing to see here.

Trans woman's harassment case against the local authority thrown out

Mandie Monroe caused 'confusion' soon after joining the authority because her name on the rota was Mandie but her name on her email said Andy.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12828065/amp/Trans-woman-applied-council-job-mans-CV-harassment-case-against-local-authority-thrown-trying-sue-asking-use.html

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Treaclewell · 10/12/2023 11:09

It's not only words that they leap on. A raised eyebrow can have the police called, even though they don't reckon it is transphobic and go away without action. (And 'he' instead of 'them'.)

IcakethereforeIam · 07/12/2023 22:39

I, sincerely, hope he's changed his email address. I'm surprised that at least some of it wasn't blanked out.

He seems very highly strung.

ArthurbellaScott · 07/12/2023 22:26

BezMills · 07/12/2023 14:29

Arthurbella, good point

Another grift planned, no doubt.

HermioneWeasley · 07/12/2023 14:35

Cases get this far and cost thousands to defend because tribunals never throw out discrimination claims no matter how weak. The system is a disgrace. He should be barred from bringing any more claims as a vexatious litigant

BezMills · 07/12/2023 14:29

Arthurbella, good point

ArthurbellaScott · 07/12/2023 14:17

It's a good plan, but these often all go pearshaped.

SaffronSpice · 07/12/2023 14:16

BezMills · 07/12/2023 10:40

I think if Humza Yousuf was the judge, he would have thrown it out thusly "At it Gender, Plainly"

Nah. That was just because he was cornered for the cameras.

WhereYouLeftIt · 07/12/2023 14:16

Am I reading it right? Started the job on April 19 2022, then "had a fallout with bosses over work-related matters and by May 18, 2022, she stopped working for the council".

So worked there for less than a month?

SaffronSpice · 07/12/2023 14:14

MsFogi · 06/12/2023 16:52

So part time cross dressers can pursue that hobby in work?? I sometimes like having a loud sing and dance around my kitchen - should my employer be supporting me to do this in the open plan office at work?

Doesn’t your employer promote ‘bring your whole self to work’?

Rightsraptor · 07/12/2023 14:08

Very good, @HiddenLegoOuch !

HiddenLegoOuch · 07/12/2023 13:59

Precipice · 05/12/2023 22:06

If you think being called a man is harassment, why would you choose to call yourself MANdie?

I suppose it is MAN + DIE (Diversity, Inclusion, Equality) - isn’t it?

SinnerBoy · 07/12/2023 13:54

It's the new 'I tripped over a loose paving slab'.

Undoubtedly!

WickedSerious · 07/12/2023 13:27

SinnerBoy · 07/12/2023 10:13

SamW98 · 05/12/2023 22:17

How do these people manage to get through the day ffs when they see transphobia in every word anyone else says?

I don't think them saw transphobic harassment at all. I think they pulled the stunt in a blatant attempt at getting a big payout. Why else would them have said that either name was acceptable, then had a hissy fit?

It's the new 'I tripped over a loose paving slab'.

CaramelMac · 07/12/2023 11:00

Sadly people will read these cases in the paper and the. when they get a trans applicant think it’s not worth the bother or be worried about putting a foot wrong and being sued so hire someone else instead.

BezMills · 07/12/2023 10:40

SinnerBoy · 07/12/2023 10:13

SamW98 · 05/12/2023 22:17

How do these people manage to get through the day ffs when they see transphobia in every word anyone else says?

I don't think them saw transphobic harassment at all. I think they pulled the stunt in a blatant attempt at getting a big payout. Why else would them have said that either name was acceptable, then had a hissy fit?

I think if Humza Yousuf was the judge, he would have thrown it out thusly "At it Gender, Plainly"

SinnerBoy · 07/12/2023 10:13

SamW98 · 05/12/2023 22:17

How do these people manage to get through the day ffs when they see transphobia in every word anyone else says?

I don't think them saw transphobic harassment at all. I think they pulled the stunt in a blatant attempt at getting a big payout. Why else would them have said that either name was acceptable, then had a hissy fit?

OneMorePlant · 06/12/2023 22:52

ArthurbellaScott · 05/12/2023 20:27

Thanks. I'll add to the court case thread.

Where can I find the court case thread?

BezMills · 06/12/2023 17:49

Yeah I think they were looking for A Great Payday

LarkLane · 06/12/2023 17:15

I feel quite sorry for the manager. All she asked was what name the complainant wanted work colleagues to use in a genuine attempt to be kind.

I see that the disability and whistleblower claims also were thrown out, another untrue load of bollocks.

Probably was hoping for a big pay out before the hearing. It seems to be quite the fashion these days amongst some people, doesn't it?

Yet another vexatious litigant booted out. What a con merchant.

BadSkiingMum · 06/12/2023 17:10

These conversations happened within about ten days of the person in question starting work.

Surely that’s a pretty normal timeframe to still be working out a new employee’s needs/requirements?

Glad the tribunal saw sense.

Cancelledcurio · 06/12/2023 17:00

@pronounsbundlebundle @PurpleSparkledPixie well exactly! It is really concerning isn't it? So many vulnerable peoe out there, desperate for a decent place to live or even a decent roof over their heads for the night and this person potentially makes these kind of decisions!

MsFogi · 06/12/2023 16:52

So part time cross dressers can pursue that hobby in work?? I sometimes like having a loud sing and dance around my kitchen - should my employer be supporting me to do this in the open plan office at work?

Fordian · 06/12/2023 15:22

I don't think they realise how this sort of stuff 'peaks' people; everyday people who probably, like 30 odd % of the population are just discovering that a transwoman is a man... who go 'Hang on..'