Scotland - New prison rules on housing trans inmates

Like the NHS Annex B - which talks only about the trans patient's preference for which ward they are placed on. Not a single word about the needs or preferences of the other patients on that ward.

A few years back, a lot of people wrote to their local hospital etc and asked to see Equality Impact Assessments for "trans inclusive" policies which had been adopted. Where these had been done, it was quite striking how often they showed a complete lack of understanding of the purpose of the assessment and that it was supposed to be about the other 8 protected characteristics, not how trans people fitted into those characteristics.

I therefore can predict many once convicted like epiphanies promptly followed by 'detransition' on release.

This is already a thing apparently.

I mean people are absolutely right, that this is unacceptable and puts the care and focus on males and uses females as props.

Saying that, the current statistics on trans prisoners show they are overwhelmingly overrepresented in sexual abuse data so in theory that's a lot less that will be considered.

Obviously that's before word gets out that by declaring pronouns you can have a lower security space in a less crowded prison with the opposite sex (who happen to be less violent and able to cause you harm)

I therefore can predict many once convicted like epiphanies promptly followed by 'detransition' on release.

First part backed up by data, second part is a personal hypothesis discussing men in general and not just trans.

They're following England's lead then?
No idea why there should be any exceptions but apparently our politicians know better.

Like the NHS Annex B - which talks only about the trans patient's preference for which ward they are placed on. Not a single word about the needs or preferences of the other patients on that ward.

This really isn’t a left right problem. It’s a problem on the individualism v collectivism spectrum.

So many issues are caused by this excessive focus on the individual.

Same goes for all single sex spaces. This ‘oh that rule shouldn’t apply to me because…‘ logic is unhelpful.

these are not reasonable adjustments because they are collectively harmful.

The problem is that it’s lost to extreme individualism and individualist exceptionalism. The focus is all on the experience and feelings of trans woman are all anyone is thinking about, with the assessment about whether the exception should apply to that individual based on their individual characteristics.

but it’s not about individuals. Single sex provision serves broad and collective societal needs. The principle that prisons are single sex should apply to everyone. Individual exceptionalism can be applied within that - special provision within the male estate.

Scotland is just another country lost to the extreme left. They will centralise again in about a decades time or worse there will be a far right swing.

He must be awesome at sniffing out corruption ! Oh …. Wait…

It’s inhumane to put males in cells with women, the majority of whom have head injuries because some man beat them, or addiction or general appalling trauma.

keep prison single sex had all the stats. I can’t see why this awful practice is not recognised as torture.

The question that I have is what is an acceptable risk to women

I think the people who come up with this stuff simply cannot grasp that they are always centring it around the wants of biological men and not thinking about the women they are hoping to be housed with.

Where is the consideration of how being housed with a biological man might affect all the women who have experienced male violence in this ‘individualised approach’?

Nowhere - because it’s always focused around the trans prisoner.

The policy makers don’t seem to understand the detrimental effect that being housed with male prisoners will have on many women. It doesn’t matter how ‘nice’ your assessment has decided the male prisoner is or how low you judge the risk of them being violent to female prisoners.

Exacrtly what I said when the story was covered on Reporting Scotland as part of the morning news. Lots of talk about "individuals".